The Senator Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Oh, you want a couple not so known? Vernon Reid of Living Colour is awesome (and, like Hendrix, a very good blues guitarist), as is Jimi Hazel of 24-7 Spyz. Saw them open for the Stones years ago at Foxboro - absolutely blew me away... link
BarkLessWagMore Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 two older guys who I feel never got their due as guitar players were Dave Alvin (of The Blasters) and Dave Edmunds. As for newer groups, I think Tad Kubler of The Hold Steady is one of the best out there right now.
The Senator Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Question:When, when you ask us to stick to rock and roll, who exactly are we leaving out here: Beethoven, Sinatra, Yanni, the Schmenge Brothers? andres segovia, julian bream, john williams, christopher parkening, just to name a few parkening
The Poojer Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Lest we forget Charo andres segovia, julian bream, john williams, christopher parkening, just to name a few parkening
The Senator Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Lest we forget Charo ohmygosh who could ever forget the spanish spitfire and her coochie coochie... charo
RkFast Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 All metal pioneers...left out the obvious ones like Iommi and Rhodes: Allen West & Trevor Peres Chuck Shuldiner Kerry King & Jeff Hanneman Alex Skolnick Adrian Smith & Dave Murray K.K. Downing & Glenn Tipton Dimebag Darrell Marty Friedman James Murphy Dave Mustaine
The Avenger Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 All metal pioneers...left out the obvious ones like Iommi and Rhodes: Allen West & Trevor Peres Chuck Shuldiner Kerry King & Jeff Hanneman Alex Skolnick Adrian Smith & Dave Murray K.K. Downing & Glenn Tipton Dimebag Darrell Marty Friedman James Murphy Dave Mustaine I'd also add: Rocky George - Suicidal Tendencies Tommy Victor - Prong Scott Ian - Anthrax Pepper Keenan - C.O.C.
Wayne Fontes Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Lindsay Buckingham? The light in the loafers version of the Mac has nothing on the original. See Green, Peter. A lot of the players mentioned are not underrated but definitely overexposed. I'll go with previous poster with Mick Ronson - he was ziggy. Tom Morello and Vernon Reid as well (LC was short changed by the whole Black Rock Coalition typecasting thing - they were an explosive band - period). Others underrated and maybe unknown are Don Rich, Waylon Jennings (picker and outlaw), John Echols and later Jay Donnellan of Love. The Reverend Horton Heat Jim Heath. And, Jimmy Nolen has to be the most sampled guitarist in Hip Hop history. If you include pedal steel, then Sneaky Pete's work with effects on the first FBB Lp was epic. My fave of course has to be Steve Cropper.
JLO Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Step aside, for he is the master, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c-NMnYhM3Q
The Senator Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Step aside, for he is the master, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c-NMnYhM3Q Unquestionably. His son Dweezil is no slouch, having had such a fine teacher...
Delete This Account Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 andres segovia, julian bream, john williams, christopher parkening, just to name a few parkening i sit corrected. jw
Tcali Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 The two I get off the top of my head are Lindsay Buckingham and Mike Campbell. Lindsay Buckingham is from Fleetwood Mac for those who don't know and Mike Campbell is the Heartbreakers lead guitarist. BTW, How Buckingham and Nicks ended up in FM is kind of interesting. After Bob Welch left the band they were looking for a new guitarist. Mick Fleetwood walked into a studio to talk to a friend who was mixing some stuff from the Buckingham/Nicks album and Mick asked who the guitarist was. It was Buckingham and Mick asked the friend if he thought the guy might be interested in joining Fleetwood Mac. His friend told him that he wouldn't come without his girlfriend (Stevie Nicks) most likely. Fleetwood Mac never auditions people they want in the band they just invite them or people are recommended to them. (i.e. Bob Welch) So they decided to meet them for dinner. Mick and John told Christine that if she didn't want the girl in the band they would go in another direction. Christine got along really well with Stevie and as they say the rest is history. Mike Campbell's best work is on songs like "Here Comes My Girl" great riff. Too many draft posts this week I thought this might be a fun distraction. agree on Buckingham...dont know nuff bout the heartbreakers. One of the greats in the punk/rock genre is the recently deceased Ron Asheton.Most probbly never heard of the guy.
Tcali Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 two older guys who I feel never got their due as guitar players were Dave Alvin (of The Blasters) and Dave Edmunds. As for newer groups, I think Tad Kubler of The Hold Steady is one of the best out there right now. dave Edmunds got lottsa respect---at least among the pros. And don't forget Peter Frampton---whose guitar prowess was overshadowed by that awful garbage he put out that was so popular in the mid 70s.
Buftex Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 dave Edmunds got lottsa respect---at least among the pros. And don't forget Peter Frampton---whose guitar prowess was overshadowed by that awful garbage he put out that was so popular in the mid 70s. I had second row seats to see Bowie once, on the (wretched) Glass Spider tour. Unfortunately, for me, my seats were 2nd row, stage right, right smack dab in front of guitarist Peter Frampton. I have never been so repulsed watching a musician... As long as we are throwing out guitar players that aren't really "underrated", I nominate Neil Young... great guitarist, great performer, and usually great songwriter...
damj Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 andres segovia, julian bream, john williams, christopher parkening, just to name a few parkening If we want to go into Jazz ... Al DiMeola Stanley Jordan Stanley Clark (yeah, I know bass, but he us so good that it's freakish) John McLaughlin
yall Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 Under-rated ... hell ... I never know which one is playing ... Dave Murray and Adrian Smith of Iron Maiden. My all time favorite band. I didn't mention them because the OP said "rock" only and I figured he didn't want metal. But seriously, you can't tell them apart? Their styles are quite different. Adrian has the more structured solos with the wider vibrato, while Dave has the more Hendrix-y sound with less bite from using his neck pickup. (I'm a total Maiden geek. I have a tattoo, play in a tribute band, etc )
Steely Dan Posted April 24, 2009 Author Posted April 24, 2009 ohmygosh who could ever forget the spanish spitfire and her coochie coochie... charo A very honest friend of mine says his uncle taught Charo to play guitar. dave Edmunds got lottsa respect---at least among the pros. And don't forget Peter Frampton---whose guitar prowess was overshadowed by that awful garbage he put out that was so popular in the mid 70s. Frampton is great! Somebody mentioned the guys from AC/DC before and IIRC they never ventured beyond three chords on their songs.
Kingfish Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 I'd also add: Rocky George - Suicidal Tendencies Tommy Victor - Prong Scott Ian - Anthrax Pepper Keenan - C.O.C. Join The Army!!!!!!!!!!! How about Buzz Osbourne from The Melvins?
OGTEleven Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 They did seem to drop off the map pretty quickly considering how big they were in the '80s. Knopfler may have dropped off the radar but he is still on the map. Dire Straits is no more, but MK has put out several outstanding solo efforts along with an album of duets with Emmylou Harris. I'd say that they are the best of his career and that is coming from a huge Dire Straits fan. It is impossible to say which guitarist is the best because so much of it is personal preference. IMO, it is almost as hard to say whether someone is underrated or overrated as a guitarist once they get to a high level of recognition. Personally I think Knopfler is very underappreciated. I think people recognize how well he can play a guitar. What is not always seen is how well he fits his guitar within the framework of a song. It is incredible. The way he uses his skill there is what I like most. You know at any time he can have his guitar take over a song, but on most he holds it back and leaves you waiting; especially as his career progresses. Early on songs like Sultans of Swing, Lady Writer and especially Telegraph Road have long and impresive solos. More recent stuff has fantastic guitar that threatens to break out into a solo, and sometimes does, but never totally overtakes a song. We can argue whether any guitarist at that level of fame is overrated or underrated, but one area of Knopfler's skill that is very, very underrated is his songwriting. He is incredibly well read and has songs that reflect this on a multitude of topics. He writes about wars, third world dictators, regular people, and interesting figures like Ray Kroc and Sonny Liston. He writes from the third person and the first person. "Boom, Like That" is written from Kroc's perspective and is a very unique and song. Everything fits in his songs, especially on his last few recordings. There are not really hard rock albums, although most have a song or two that remind you of DS. His latest album (about 18 months old) is "Kill To Get Crimson". My guess is if Bruce Springsteen had released this album that it would have won about 34 Grammys. Most people still think Knopfler is off the map. That's why I still say he is underrated as a guitarist but profoundly underrated as an overall musician.
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