Fewell733 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 some VERY interesting and surprising insights from Gil Brandt: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/20...m-gil-bran.html LSU DE Tyson Jackson will go in the Top 5. Not might. Will. This qualified as the biggest shocker, to me, since almost every mock draft I looked at pegged Jackson to be a mid- to late first-rounder at best. I thought the Top 5 was pretty locked in, too. But, of course, I shouldn’t have doubted Mr. Brandt. I asked around after the show to see if I could confirm it, and sure enough one NFL source I know did tell me he’s heard the Kansas City Chiefs might take Jackson at No. 3, or trade down and take him a few picks later. • The Seattle Seahawks, at No. 4, will likely select either Texas Tech WR Michael Crabtree or USC QB Mark Sanchez. • Crabtree will fall somewhere between Picks 4 and 10, though given the variables it was impossible to guess exactly where. • The Oakland Raiders will take a receiver at No. 7 (and it’s hard to imagine them passing on Crabtree if he’s available, so I suppose we can narrow down Crabtree’s placement to 4-7). • There will be no defensive backs taken in the Top 10. • The Saints, at No. 14, are looking for a big cornerback, and Ohio State’s Malcolm Jenkins is a good bet to be their guy. • The New England Patriots, at No. 23 will take a linebacker. • Oklahoma T Phil Loadholt (6-7, 332) will go in the first round of the draft. His teammate, G Duke Robinson (6-5, 330, and the top-rated guard on most boards), will not. • Cincinnati DE Connor Barwin didn’t begin this process as a first-rounder, but he has managed to sneak himself into the bottom of the first round. • The Buffalo Bills are targeting a DE with the 11th pick (and not Tennessee DE Robert Ayers, by the way). They are also pretty high on Oklahoma State TE Brandon Pettigrew, but aren’t likely to take him unless they trade down a few spots. (Important note: Things have obviously changed a little since then, since the Bills acquired a second first-round pick from Philadelphia in the Jason Peters trade. Now the Bills have both the 11th and 28th pick. Of course, they also have an obvious need for a tackle). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Thank God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 The Bills will draft Ayers if he's available at #11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 The Bills will draft Ayers if he's available at #11. Says who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Says people a lot closer to the Bills than Gil Brandt. And thats all I'm saying about the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Says people a lot closer to the Bills than Gil Brandt. And thats all I'm saying about the situation. Makes sense. This IS the organization that selected Erik Flowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Can this be stickied? I want to check this on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 The Bills will draft Ayers if he's available at #11. God I hope you're wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Can this be stickied? I want to check this on Saturday. I'm sure you'll remember Leonidas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan's Revenge Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Makes sense. This IS the organization that selected Erik Flowers. Robert Ayers is NOT Erik Flowers. Watch about 10 minutes of his tape from last season and you'll be able to easily determine that. I would provide a link, but seemed to have misplaced the one that San Jose Bills provided... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Robert Ayers is NOT Erik Flowers. Watch about 10 minutes of his tape from last season and you'll be able to easily determine that. I would provide a link, but seemed to have misplaced the one that San Jose Bills provided... You're right. Flowers was much more productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Don't get me wrong, that article is a nice find and a good share. I just think that there's a whole lotta filth thrown around this time of year, so I bet it's just as likely that none of those things happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Robert Ayers is NOT Erik Flowers. Watch about 10 minutes of his tape from last season and you'll be able to easily determine that. I would provide a link, but seemed to have misplaced the one that San Jose Bills provided... Indeed, Flowers had 10.5 sacks as a senior, Ayers had 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan's Revenge Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 You're right. Flowers was much more productive. You cannot judge prospects solely on statistical numbers. That is ridiculous, and will not give you good results, plain and simple. If it worked that way, then Pettigrew shouldn't be anywhere near the first round, Jerry Hughes from TCU should be the first DE taken since he led the nation in sacks, Laurinites should be taken before Curry due to the numbers, etc, etc. Judging Ayers on his sack numbers alone is a copout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 If we draft Ayers at #11, I'll never hear the end of it down here. Living in SEC country, the consensus is that Ayers is completely overrated, and that his rise up the draft board is a complete joke. It's bad enough I have to listen to this Herschel Walker-coattail-riding-hillbilly-jackass (Buck Bellou) on the radio down here diss Buffalo every so often, if we're the ones who make this move it'll become even more nauseating. SEC football is bigger than anything down here, and if they say Ayers is crap, then I tend to trust their view a bit more than the Bills F.O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Robert Ayers is NOT Erik Flowers. Watch about 10 minutes of his tape from last season and you'll be able to easily determine that. I would provide a link, but seemed to have misplaced the one that San Jose Bills provided... The funny thing is that many people see only what they want to see. Steely Dan, for one is underwhelmed by this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccuoGx3A6t4 But to make my point, the very first play Ayers stunts inside, gives a head and shoulder fake to the guard who as a result acts like a deer in the headlights before crumpling...without so much as touching Ayers. To me that's Ayers' speed, quickness, and agility. Someone else described the same play as Ayers being unblocked...even though there was a player assigned to block him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 You cannot judge prospects solely on statistical numbers. That is ridiculous, and will not give you good results, plain and simple. If it worked that way, then Pettigrew shouldn't be anywhere near the first round, Jerry Hughes from TCU should be the first DE taken since he led the nation in sacks, Laurinites should be taken before Curry due to the numbers, etc, etc. Judging Ayers on his sack numbers alone is a copout. To a certain extent you are correct. But, lets be real here. He was a DE, and one of the main roles of a DE is to sack the QB. He got 3 last year, and not many in the years before that. If he had a hard time getting after the QB in college, what makes you think he can get the job done in the pro's? I just don't see it. Pass on Ayers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyJay1234 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Says people a lot closer to the Bills than Gil Brandt. And thats all I'm saying about the situation. You willing to put anything on the line if you are wrong?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 I really hope they are looking for a trade down partner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 I really hope they are looking for a trade down partner Me too! That really would be the ideal situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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