San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 The trade value chart is obsolete at this point. It doesn't take into account the huge discrepancy in compensation between high first round picks and lower first round picks. It is an imperfect tool. That being said, it is the starting point for trade discussions involving draft picks. Here's how the Peters trade breaks down based on the (admittedly obsolete) chart: Philly's 1st rounder, 28th overall pick equals 660 pts. Philly's 4th rounder, 121st overall pick equals 52 pts. Philly's late rounder in 2010, projected as the best 7th rounder, 193rd overall equals 14 pts. It appears that for Jason Peters we got the equivalent of 726 points which is equivalent in value to somewhere between the 24th and 25 pick in the draft. It is arguable that we would have been better off receiving Philly's other first round pick, #21 than the picks that we received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 This should help, here's the revised chart that as many as 18 teams used last year: 1 2,000 2 1,900 3 1,825 4 1,750 5 1,675 6 1,635 7 1,570 8 1,505 9 1,440 10 1,375 11 1,320 12 1,275 13 1,230 14 1,185 15 1,140 16 1,110 17 1,070 18 1,040 19 1,010 20 980 21 945 22 920 23 895 24 870 25 845 26 820 27 795 28 770 29 745 30 720 31 695 32 670 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 The trade value chart is obsolete at this point. It doesn't take into account the huge discrepancy in compensation between high first round picks and lower first round picks. It is an imperfect tool. That being said, it is the starting point for trade discussions involving draft picks. Here's how the Peters trade breaks down based on the (admittedly obsolete) chart: Philly's 1st rounder, 28th overall pick equals 660 pts. Philly's 4th rounder, 121st overall pick equals 52 pts. Philly's late rounder in 2010, projected as the best 7th rounder, 193rd overall equals 14 pts. It appears that for Jason Peters we got the equivalent of 726 points which is equivalent in value to somewhere between the 24th and 25 pick in the draft. Why do you say "at best a 7th rounder?" That suggests you think Peters will be a total bust in Philly. I think conditional means 7th is the worst it will be, depending on what range the Bills negotaited. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Why do you say "at best a 7th rounder?" That suggests you think Peters will be a total bust in Philly. I think conditional means 7th is the worst it will be, depending on what range the Bills negotaited. PTR Easy Promo. I'm just putting stuff out there. The discussion will develop. If we substitute the best 7th rounder with the best fourth rounder (112 pts) we now have a total of 824 pts which is equal to between the 20th and 21st picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 This should help, here's the revised chart that as many as 18 teams used last year: 1 2,000 2 1,900 3 1,825 4 1,750 5 1,675 6 1,635 7 1,570 8 1,505 9 1,440 10 1,375 11 1,320 12 1,275 13 1,230 14 1,185 15 1,140 16 1,110 17 1,070 18 1,040 19 1,010 20 980 21 945 22 920 23 895 24 870 25 845 26 820 27 795 28 770 29 745 30 720 31 695 32 670 Thank you Bandit. Do the values in the other rounds change too? If so I need more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Thank you Bandit. Do the values in the other rounds change too? If so I need more info. Sure do...here's the whole bloody thing: 1 2,000 2 1,900 3 1,825 4 1,750 5 1,675 6 1,635 7 1,570 8 1,505 9 1,440 10 1,375 11 1,320 12 1,275 13 1,230 14 1,185 15 1,140 16 1,110 17 1,070 18 1,040 19 1,010 20 980 21 945 22 920 23 895 24 870 25 845 26 820 27 795 28 770 29 745 30 720 31 695 32 670 33 570 34 560 35 550 36 540 37 530 38 520 39 510 40 500 41 490 42 480 43 470 44 460 45 450 46 440 47 430 48 420 49 410 50 400 51 390 52 380 53 370 54 360 55 350 56 340 57 330 58 320 59 310 60 300 61 292 62 284 63 276 64 270 65 265 66 260 67 255 68 250 69 245 70 240 71 235 72 230 73 225 74 220 75 215 76 210 77 205 78 200 79 195 80 190 81 185 82 180 83 175 84 170 85 165 86 160 87 155 88 150 89 145 90 140 91 136 92 132 93 128 94 124 95 120 96 116 97 112 98 108 99 104 100 100 101 96 102 92 103 88 104 86 105 84 106 82 107 80 108 78 109 76 110 74 111 72 112 70 113 68 114 66 115 64 116 62 117 60 118 58 119 56 120 54 121 52 122 50 123 49 124 48 125 47 126 46 127 45 128 44 129 43 130 42 131 41 132 40 133 40 134 39 135 39 136 38 137 38 138 37 139 37 140 36 141 36 142 35 143 35 144 34 145 34 146 33 147 33 148 32 149 32 150 31 151 31 152 31 153 30 154 30 155 29 156 29 157 29 158 28 159 28 160 27 161 27 162 27 163 26 164 26 165 25 166 25 167 25 168 24 169 24 170 23 171 23 172 23 173 22 174 22 175 21 176 21 177 21 178 20 179 20 180 19 181 19 182 19 183 18 184 18 185 17 186 17 187 17 188 16 189 16 190 15 191 15 192 15 193 14 194 14 195 13 196 13 197 13 198 12 199 12 200 11 201 11 202 11 203 10 204 10 205 9 206 9 207 9 208 8 209 8 210 7 211 7 212 7 213 6 214 6 215 5 216 5 217 5 218 4 219 4 220 3 221 3 222 3 223 2 224 2 Since the 23 compensatory picks cannot be traded they have no value, so only the pick number will change around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 For anyone interested the new chart that teams apparently are using as a starting point: http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/15/...ft-trade-chart/ Using this chart the Bills received #28=770 pts, #121=52 pts, and anywhere from #97 (best 4th round pick)=112 pts to #193 (best 7th round pick)=14 pts. That gives us a total of best case 934 pts=between the #21-22 pick. A total worst case of 836 pts= between the #25-26 pick. Basically according to either chart, the Bills received something approaching the equivalent of the 21st pick in the draft for Peters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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