Tipster19 Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 We have a first rate stating RB and a first rate backup RB. Why do bother bringing up drafting a RB in the first round and replacing Lynch on the off chance he might be better than our current young Pro Bowl RB? I'll say this just to debate a point. I'm saying that what I'm about to discuss is necessarily accurate but it doesn't mean that it isn't. While Lynch is a Pro Bowl RB he still isn't an Adrian Peterson either. In hindsight of him getting into trouble and being just a strike away from a serious suspension, it's reason for concern. What if during this season this guy gets himself in trouble again? There's no wiggleroom, he'll be done and so will the Bills' chances of fielding a successful backfield. Here's a hypothetical scenario to drive a point home. Say we trade Peters, who at this point appears to not to want to play for us, and got a 1st rd pick in the 20's and drafted Brown. Now we got to address the hole at OT so we take OT Michael Oher to fill it. Lynch is ONE strike away from being useless for us and now we got Fred Jackson squawking about a better contract. Brown provides us insurance and although it's too late for us to receive compensation for Lynch in this year's draft we instead trade Lynch for a veteran to fulfill another area of need. What just was created was an OT and RB for less money, shedding of a disgruntled player and eliminated a 2 strike player who will net us another proven veteran for another area of need. What if that player was someone like DL Aaron Kampman or DT Corey Williams and some other minor compensation in the 2010 draft? I'm just saying. I don't want to trade Peters but I also don't want to repeat what happened with him last year neither. Lynch, I could really give two hoots about this guy. He had his chance(s) and he hasn't really shown that he's someone that can be counted on. Needless to say that if the replacements don't pan out then we took a step back but the current players that I'm talking about haven't really provided the most stability for us either. I'm not a GM, just an intense blogger, but I don't think that anybody else on this board is neither unless Russ Brandon is using an alias. One other thing, all I said was that I'd be alright with us taking Brown in the mid-late 1st rd. I'm not saying that I believe it or that it will happen, just that I wouldn't be against it. Yeah. Seems like the Bills have already tried that a couple of times lately ... If the 2 RBs that you are referring to are MaGahee and Lynch then you're absolutely right but keep in mind that neither of them were selected by the current GM. Although Brandon was around and had some influence with Lynch, I think that he has more power now and can't be too thrilled with what he has seen out of him off the field so far.
NewEra Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 The Peters thing was my mistake, Tippy...different poster. As for Brown, I don't KNOW he won't be better than Lynch. I also don't KNOW that Percy Harvin won't be better than TO or Evens, or that Jenkins won't be better than McKelvin or MaGee...so what? We have a first rate stating RB and a first rate backup RB. Why do bother bringing up drafting a RB in the first round and replacing Lynch on the off chance he might be better than our current young Pro Bowl RB? I'm with ya....where do these posters come from? too many people thatneed to stop hitting the bottle so hard!
SKOOBY Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 You da man. Thanks Drafting for the offense might be in play as well.
marauderswr80 Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 ive said it for a while now Fred Jackson is a better RB then Lynch except for power. Jackson catches the ball better out of the backfield finds holes a lot faster and is more patient running the ball. I like Lynch, but Jackson is the better of the 2. I wouldnt complain if they find a way to trade Lynch and get another young stud at RB. With his character issues and all, itmight be time to blow it up and part ways. But in the end I bet their is some truth to this report.
The Dean Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 Is Omon really that bad? Well, I've never been an Omon fan, to be truthful, but he's not "that bad", IMO. It's just that the Bills can (and probably should) do better at that spot, if they are going to be without Lynch for some games. I wouldn't break the bank, or anything, but decent RBs who can help in a pinch are available, and the Bills should look at them.
BillsFan Trapped in Pats Land Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 Well, I've never been an Omon fan, to be truthful, but he's not "that bad", IMO. It's just that the Bills can (and probably should) do better at that spot, if they are going to be without Lynch for some games. I wouldn't break the bank, or anything, but decent RBs who can help in a pinch are available, and the Bills should look at them. Omon had like 6 carries last season and during preseason he was splitting time with Fumbles Wright. This kid was an absolute stud in college, albeit at Division II level. I'd like to see him get a legitimate shot at the 3rd RB spot.
The Dean Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 Omon had like 6 carries last season and during preseason he was splitting time with Fumbles Wright. This kid was an absolute stud in college, albeit at Division II level. I'd like to see him get a legitimate shot at the 3rd RB spot. I have no argument with any of that. But, the Bills like experience, so I expect them to bring in an experienced NFL back, with a track record to be #2 while Lynch serves his suspension. Omon may beat the vet out...but also might be a casualty of that kine of thinking.
BillsFan Trapped in Pats Land Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 I have no argument with any of that. But, the Bills like experience, so I expect them to bring in an experienced NFL back, with a track record to be #2 while Lynch serves his suspension. Omon may beat the vet out...but also might be a casualty of that kine of thinking. Yeah, I see what you are saying....but there is no doubt that (at least while Lynch is suspended) the Bills will carry 4 RBs on the roster. This is all speculative, and I am anxious to see how this shakes out.
Leonidas Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 After reading that article on Omon I am really, really pulling for the guy. But our #3 RB is going to see significant playing time early in the season, so if it's Omon, he's got to be ready. I'd like to see Buffalo bring in a vet to challenge him but give Omon every chance to win the job; I'd certainly be pulling for him. From ESPN Insider: Strengths A thickly built and powerful back with adequate height and very good bulk. A one-cut downhill runner with adequate-to-good straight-line speed. Is a strong north-south runner with good vision, body control and balance. A tough inside runner that uses good pad-level and leg drive to gain yards after contact. Also utilizes a stiff-arm very effectively. Protects the ball well and thrives in his role as bell cow back within an offense. He has shown reliable hands as a receiver out of the backfield and has adequate experience in that regard. Is a strong blocker with the size and toughness to pick up the blitz in pass protection. Weaknesses Lacks elite acceleration as a runner. A bit of a one-speed power runner that won't be able to run away from defenders or run over defenders as easily in the NFL as he does at the small-school level. Lacks ideal elusiveness and does not make many defenders miss in space. Is sure-handed as an underneath receiver but will never be a homerun threat as a route-runner or after the catch in the NFL. Missed one game with an ankle injury in 2005, missed two games with a rib injury in 2006 and durability is a concern. Overall Omon redshirted in 2003. He played in 40 games (31 starts) in his first three seasons (2004-'06), gaining 4,736 rushing yards and 55 touchdowns on 899 carries (5.3 average). In 2007, he led the Division II ranks in rushing, was named the D-II Offensive Player of the Year and became the first back in NCAA history to rush for 1,500 yards in each of four seasons. He ran for an eye-popping 2,337 yards and 37 touchdowns on 370 carries (6.3 average) in 14 games (all starts) as a senior. For his career, he had 90 receptions for 682 yards (7.6 average) and six touchdowns. Omon missed one game in 2005 after suffering an ankle injury, and sat out two games in 2006 because of a rib injury. Omon is a Division II standout who has prototypical size, power and vision as a runner. On the other hand, while his speed is adequate, he doesn't have the second gear or elusiveness to become anything more than a No. 2 or No. 3 back in the NFL. He doesn't show much upside as a receiver or kickoff return specialist either so he projects as a late round pick or rookie free agent. Height: 5'10" Weight: 228 lbs College: NORTHWEST MISSOURI STATE Flag: D* S* Overall Rank: 0 Position Rank: 37 Glossary: D (DURABILITY): Player that can't stay healthy S (SPEED): Player lacks ideal speed at position
The Dean Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 Yeah, I see what you are saying....but there is no doubt that (at least while Lynch is suspended) the Bills will carry 4 RBs on the roster. This is all speculative, and I am anxious to see how this shakes out. How about using Josh Reed, in the backfield, on occasion?
Leonidas Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 How about using Josh Reed, in the backfield, on occasion? You're not serious...are you??
The Dean Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 You're not serious...are you?? Um....not really. But, I think Josh could fill the bill in an emergency...for the occasional down or two.
H2o Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 Another person I don't think we've really taken into consideration here is Bruce Hall. He played pretty well in the preseason last year and was brought up from the PS in week 17 to be the 3rd back. He could fill the same role this season while Lynch is on suspension. More than likely, that's their plan for now.
Leonidas Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 Um....not really. But, I think Josh could fill the bill in an emergency...for the occasional down or two. If we get to the point where Josh Reed is in the backfield we've got problems. He should be an absolute last resort. Behind Omon. Behind McIntyre. Behind Franco Harris.
The Dean Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 If we get to the point where Josh Reed is in the backfield we've got problems. He should be an absolute last resort. Behind Omon. Behind McIntyre. Behind Franco Harris. I'd get Franco signed ASAP!
In space no one can hear Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 If we get to the point where Josh Reed is in the backfield we've got problems. He should be an absolute last resort. Behind Omon. Behind McIntyre. Behind Franco Harris. Thanks for putting an end to the Josh Reed on the backfield tomfoolery. Nothing like putting a WR entering his 8th season in the backfield to solve a RB problem. Yikes........
Fan in Chicago Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 Um....not really. But, I think Josh could fill the bill in an emergency...for the occasional down or two. If memory serves me correctly JR was a RB in college wasn't he ? I have always wondered why we haven't used him on end-around plays a lot when he could do major damage.
Leonidas Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 If memory serves me correctly JR was a RB in college wasn't he ? I have always wondered why we haven't used him on end-around plays a lot when he could do major damage. A possession WR with average speed on end arounds? Doing major damage? Are you serious??
The Dean Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 If memory serves me correctly JR was a RB in college wasn't he ? I have always wondered why we haven't used him on end-around plays a lot when he could do major damage. He played some RB at LSU in his freshman year. Of course, he won the Biletnikoff award winner, so he definitely was a WR. But, while I was joking about him being an RB option for the Bills, he probably could play the position better than most would assume...he loves contact and is a terrific athlete. Of course, he's getting on in years, and doesn't have the speed needed at this point in time. Josh Reed, on a better team, with a more creative offensive strategy, could have been on hell of a player. Even wearing the chains of the Bills incompetency, he is still extremely valuable to the team.
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