IDBillzFan Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 If possible, I prefer to avoid jokes about printing more money and pirate bailouts, but I'm just curious how everyone sees this turning out. I expect the US has a plan in place given how often this happens to other countries, but it's not like we'll be putting Jack Bauer in a divers suit with a knife and Bic lighter. What say ye?
RkFast Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 Well, according to Hairplug boy....whats most important is that "everyone likes us again." So it really doesnt matter.
IDBillzFan Posted April 8, 2009 Author Posted April 8, 2009 Well, according to Hairplug boy....whats most important is that "everyone likes us again." So it really doesnt matter. If I were you, I'd get some commas in their appropriate places before Bad Leftenant comes here and really gives you a beatdown. In all seriousness, according to the story, this is the SIXTH hijacking THIS WEEK. Surely someone has a plan in place, or do they just keep giving cash to the pirates and move along? I simply don't get this.
Keukasmallies Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 Probably. like most things, there is no real boots-on-the-ground response planned because, until now, there was no need for one. Kind of like when one leg of the Axis of Evil triad fires off an ICBM wanna-be missle, then reports that their resulting satelite is playing music in space, and we turn to the UN. I pray we don't go to the UN with this piracy deal! What I am sure of is that there will be hearings, investigations, white papers and much gnashing of elected teeth while the situation festers.
DC Tom Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 What I am sure of is that there will be hearings, investigations, white papers and much gnashing of elected teeth while the situation festers. That's a safe bet. I'm pretty sure I know what the previous administration would have done: make strong statements, send in the military, retake the ship, put any surviving pirates in Gitmo. I don't know what this administration would do...I don't think they would, but I would not be entirely surprised if they paid a demanded ransom to resolve the issue "peacefully".
The Big Cat Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 I imagine the first step will be to rightly identify the pirates as terrorists. Than we can declare war on them and invade an unrelated country.
OCinBuffalo Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 Two words: Navy Seals They train for this kinda stuff. The only real question: will Obama have the sack to take the leash off of our junkyard dogs? On the other hand, will he pull a Carter-type fouled-up, poorly planned rescue? These are the days that Clinton, and now Obama, gets to thank Regan and both Bushes for us having well-trained SF operators. It will be interesting to see how he handles "his" first "war". I am optimistic that he will do the right thing. He's not an idiot, and we aren't talking about going up against the Spetznaz here. Not to say that the bullets don't kill just as dead, but they do have to be aimed. The good news is this is a relatively small deal. I would be more worried if this was larger. Hopefully he cuts his teeth on this and doesn't screw up. No doubt that this is the real thing though... And, RUFKMe? Pirates? Don't they know what is going to happen to them?
DC Tom Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 And, RUFKMe? Pirates? Don't they know what is going to happen to them? Usually nothing. Piracy isn't uncommon these days, and most of them get away with it.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 I imagine the first step will be to rightly identify the pirates as terrorists. Than we can declare war on them and invade an unrelated country. don't forget to add them to the Axis of Evil list too.
OCinBuffalo Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 Usually nothing. Piracy isn't uncommon these days, and most of them get away with it. Yeah, if you're from Europe. These pirates could have been taking Europeans(-Brits) for the next 10 years for ransom and turning a nice little business before they actually did anything about it. Now that they decided to hit us they are screwed. We can't just get our people, now we have to get after all of the pirates, every day, all the time. Obama can't let this stand or he literally becomes the weak-kneed Democrat stereotype. Do you honestly think people like Hannity are going to let him off the hook on this? For these idiot pirates: This = bombing London instead of continuing to attack the RAF(thought you'd like that one ) I don't expect them to figure out all the politics, but I do expect them know the difference between us/Brits and Europe. Didn't they see the flag?
IDBillzFan Posted April 8, 2009 Author Posted April 8, 2009 don't forget to add them to the Axis of Evil list too. Oh , please. Enough with the drama. This one is slow and low, right over the middle of the plate for our new president.
/dev/null Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 That's a safe bet. I'm pretty sure I know what the previous administration would have done: make strong statements, send in the military, retake the ship, put any surviving pirates in Gitmo. I don't know what this administration would do...I don't think they would, but I would not be entirely surprised if they paid a demanded ransom to resolve the issue "peacefully". Bolded the part I disagree with. The previous administration would have talked about doing that publicly. Privately they would have negotiated with the pirates and Maersk on a ransom. After the ransom was paid by Maersk (remember, the gov't doesn't negotiate with terrorists ), no need to send in the Seals. I suspect the current administration is likely to follow the same path
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 enough of the drama? please.. the dramatics was posting we would know what the former would do. According to FOX News .. It's over. The Americans have regained control of the ship. American Crew Regains Control of Hijacked Ship, FOX News Confirms http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513238,00.html Page Cannot Be Found -- oops Fox News...
Chef Jim Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 enough of the drama? please.. the dramatics was posting we would know what the former would do. According to FOX News .. It's over. The Americans have regained control of the ship. Those arrogant bastards!
DC Tom Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 According to FOX News .. It's over. The Americans have regained control of the ship. That's just a headline. FoxSnooze occasionally floats false headlines as "trial balloons" of sorts, on the off-chance that just maybe one of them will be true, and they scoop everyone. If it's still up in half-an-hour, then maybe it'll be true.
IDBillzFan Posted April 8, 2009 Author Posted April 8, 2009 the dramatics was posting we would know what the former would do. Could you do me a favor and re-write this sentence so people can comprehend what you're trying to communicate?
IDBillzFan Posted April 8, 2009 Author Posted April 8, 2009 That's just a headline. FoxSnooze occasionally floats false headlines as "trial balloons" of sorts, on the off-chance that just maybe one of them will be true, and they scoop everyone. If it's still up in half-an-hour, then maybe it'll be true. CNN is reporting it too, and we both know they are always accurate.
DC Tom Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 Could you do me a favor and re-write this sentence so people can comprehend what you're trying to communicate? I think the intent behind that sentence was to give Bad Leftenant something to do.
bills_fan Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 AP reporting it is true... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090408/ap_on_re_af/piracy
erynthered Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 ..if true, obama better be writing that apology letter pretty soon.
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