The Big Cat Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 what did he do for us last year? Yeah i mean dont get me wrong hes big and helped but the question is how much did he help and hes getting up there in age. I am not to sure if i like this move to much. we should have tryed to sign jackson/peters. =/ With Schobel out last year, the DL should have been BRUTAL to watch.
BillsFan Trapped in Pats Land Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 With Schobel out last year, the DL should have been BRUTAL to watch. Instead it was just CRAPTASTIC But, Stroud was effectve.
Magox Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 I think this deal was implied by the FO last year when they traded for him. They tested him out for a year and he worked, so keep him here for a while. This is smart business to me. They've been doing a good job the past two offseasons with these extensions (read: not talking about Kelsey and Denney who were re-signed). Remember every DT that got traded last offseason got a new deal except him. These re-signs set precedent (Butler, Williams, Evans last year) that if you come to work and appear that you have the teams interests first, they will pay you. I think it has to be somewhat of a veiled message to Peters that he should be in Buffalo at least during OTAs and certainly not hold out. And before nayone brings this up, I do not think Jackson fits into this catagory, since he was only tendered an ERFA deal and cannot sign with anyone else. I have full confidence that when the more pressing items come to pass they will lock up Jackson for a few years at least. I agree. He played well for us last year, but he is 31, and it is something to consider. Also, the first report didn't mention that it was an extension, but implied a raise, which took me by surprise. I also worry about how much money that will take away for any other future signings that we could consider. Also, I unlike many others on this board am hoping that we resign Peters. I think he gives us the best shot at having a good LT, and this signing I would think cuts into the probabilities of that happening. I may be looking into this the wrong way, but it is simple math, the less money available, the less players that are available.
Lurker Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 To me, it pays him 6 million a year for two years. That was my thought as well....
d_wag Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 it's quite unfortunate that peters is too dumb to see the message here - show up, play hard, get paid
The Big Cat Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Instead it was just CRAPTASTIC But, Stroud was effectve. Turns out there's a thing called a gray area. Was the DL awesome? No. Was it very good? Sometimes Was it Good? Most times. Was it decent? Pretty much. Was it poor? At times. Was it bad? Occasionally. Was it Horrible? No.
stuckincincy Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Outstanding! For Peters this means..... Sing it with me! Regretfully they tell us, But firmly they compel us To say goodby to you. So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehen, good night, I hate to go and leave this pretty sight. So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehen, adieu, Adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu. The sun has gone to bed and so must I So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, goodbye, Goodbye, Goodbye, Goodbye! Dough, a dear, a real big dear, FA, a way to get more dough... Stop me!
Virgil Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 2 extra years to a guy who demands double teams and simply does his job....love it good job front office Now take care of Fast Freddie.....
The Senator Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Outstanding! For Peters this means..... Sing it with me! Regretfully they tell us, But firmly they compel us To say goodby to you. So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehen, good night, I hate to go and leave this pretty sight. So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehen, adieu, Adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu. The sun has gone to bed and so must I So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, goodbye, Goodbye, Goodbye, Goodbye! Is this the Lawrence Welk Hour?
SKOOBY Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Well it seems the squeaky wheel doesn't get the oil at 1BD. Do your job, get paid. Fail to do your job and ask for triple your salary, get bent.
Rockinon Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Geez, Magox. You act like 31 years old is the end of the line....practically one foot in the grave or something.
Magox Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Geez, Magox. You act like 31 years old is the end of the line....practically one foot in the grave or something. I didn't say that. I said it was something to consider. I like the signing, DT's is a position that you can afford to pay players north of 30 years old, more so than other positions. But you have to admit, that there is a caution sign, when you pay a player on the wrong side of 30. But, hey, I'm happy we signed him!
BillsWatch Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Some teams give raises when they convert future years to bonus money (Paid more to get money upfront? Sign me up!) but Bills have not been willing to do that just when they add years. it's quite unfortunate that peters is too dumb to see the message here - show up, play hard, get paid Maybe it his agent which is too dumb?
cåblelady Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 It has been extended for two years and restructured: Four years total, $29 million with $12 million in guarantees. Cool.
Erik Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 I love this move in the wake of letting Pat Williams go like we did...effective DT's have longer shelf lives than other positions.
Steely Dan Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Those cheap racist bastards... Oh wait, wrong thread. STROUD IS A STUD !!......a Brilliant signing......gets constant push, is always doubled and i saw him get tripled teamed many times. Now all we need is a young whipper snapper named RAJI......(currently denying that pot rumor). Not a fan of his. His academic ineligibility was due to a clerical error but he's too short and has some injury concerns. what did he do for us last year? Yeah i mean dont get me wrong hes big and helped but the question is how much did he help and hes getting up there in age. I am not to sure if i like this move to much. we should have tryed to sign jackson/peters. =/ I forget the exact numbers but I believe the Bills went from 29th to 15th in rush defense after he joined the team. it's quite unfortunate that peters is too dumb to see the message here - show up, play hard, get paid
LynchMob23 Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 His agent: Drew Rosenhaus. Perhaps his positive relationship with B-LO not only allowed the TO signing, but gave Stroud confidence he didn't have to get a contract right after the trade, because they're good for it?
Rockinon Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 I didn't say that. I said it was something to consider. I like the signing, DT's is a position that you can afford to pay players north of 30 years old, more so than other positions. But you have to admit, that there is a caution sign, when you pay a player on the wrong side of 30. But, hey, I'm happy we signed him! Don't sweat it. I'm 45 and a little sensitve about the age thing.
BillsNYC Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 I love this move in the wake of letting Pat Williams go like we did...effective DT's have longer shelf lives than other positions. Exactly my thoughts, and look how long Teddy Washington played for after Buffalo.
John from Riverside Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Personally I like the message it sends....... Fullfill your obligations and you will be taken care of........ I am so ready for Peters to be traded.
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