BillsNYC Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2009/4/7/8...s-most#comments
The Big Cat Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2009/4/7/8...s-most#comments FWIW, this is an article written about a year ago by the same guy. But we passed on HIS first round pick. It's always nice to gauge the historic accuracy of these guys because frankly I find draft predictions silly..
BillsNYC Posted April 7, 2009 Author Posted April 7, 2009 FWIW, this is an article written about a year ago by the same guy. But we passed on HIS first round pick. It's always nice to gauge the historic accuracy of these guys because frankly I find draft predictions silly.. I don't think anybody had us picking McKelvin last year, and I don't think anybody predicted that not one WR would be taken in the first round. NOBODY can predict the draft, I don't buy into guys like Kiper. I do however like to look at the predictions for the fun of it.
Magox Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 FWIW, this is an article written about a year ago by the same guy. But we passed on HIS first round pick. It's always nice to gauge the historic accuracy of these guys because frankly I find draft predictions silly.. This doesn't support your argument at all. first person mentioned was McKelvin
Leonidas Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 I don't think anybody had us picking McKelvin last year, and I don't think anybody predicted that not one WR would be taken in the first round. NOBODY can predict the draft, I don't buy into guys like Kiper. I do however like to look at the predictions for the fun of it. Actually, if I do recall, I think Kiper (maybe it was McShay? I forget) was saying there were no WR's worth a first round pick, but he was predicting a few reaches (one of them was Dallas taking Hardy with their second pick). I wasn't all that surprised, none of the WR's stood out. Devin Thomas only really played one year. Malcolm Kelly was kind of slow. Hardy couldn't get off the bump. Sweed had injury concerns. Jackson was too small.
The Big Cat Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 This doesn't support your argument at all. first person mentioned was McKelvin Not in his mock draft. When he had to predict who the Bills would take, his first pick was Devin Thomas.
BillsNYC Posted April 7, 2009 Author Posted April 7, 2009 Not in his mock draft. When he had to predict who the Bills would take, his first pick was Devin Thomas. So because his mock draft was wrong, his opinion is discounted? You realize you discount 99% of draft "gurus" with that argument, right? There is no draft guru.
The Big Cat Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 So because his mock draft was wrong, his opinion is discounted? You realize you discount 99% of draft "gurus" with that argument, right? There is no draft guru. Yes. I am aware of that. Please re-read my OP.
BillsFan Trapped in Pats Land Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Not in his mock draft. When he had to predict who the Bills would take, his first pick was Devin Thomas. Most people didn't think he would be there at 11. A super deep crop of CBs and not one went until 11.
BillsNYC Posted April 7, 2009 Author Posted April 7, 2009 Yes. I am aware of that. Please re-read my OP. Fair enough, I guess we kinda agree.
Haven Moses Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Here are my 5: Orakpo Maybin Jenkins Mauluaga Macklin
Estro Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Here are my 6 FWIW: Everette Brown Brian Orakpo Robert Ayers Ray Maualuga Michael Oher Andre Smith Personally, I don't see the Bills taking Pettigrew at 11, too high for a TE who isn't even a difference maker in the passing game. The guy had 0 TD receptions last year. Only way I want the Bills taking him is in a trade down.
billybob Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2009/4/7/8...s-most#comments "We have already been informed that the Bills believe Smith is the best tackle in the draft. The problem is that, even amidst serious character, work ethic and motivation questions, many other NFL teams are likely going to have the same opinion." psssst.... everybody lies, I think it will be more likely that Jason Smith and Eugene Monroe will be the first two OTs off the board, I think William Beatty will be the 3rd OT taken because he's a true left tackle - 4th OT Andre Smith projects more as a RT or G in the pros while 5th OT Oher just has some red flags. I think the big unknown in the draft is how many QBs are taken in the top 11 picks 1, 2, or 3- I'm not convinced that Denver will take a QB in the 1st round but if you are a team in need of a QB can you take that chance? and how far has Josh Freeman come up.
BuffaloRebound Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 "We have already been informed that the Bills believe Smith is the best tackle in the draft. The problem is that, even amidst serious character, work ethic and motivation questions, many other NFL teams are likely going to have the same opinion." psssst.... everybody lies, I think it will be more likely that Jason Smith and Eugene Monroe will be the first two OTs off the board, I think William Beatty will be the 3rd OT taken because he's a true left tackle - 4th OT Andre Smith projects more as a RT or G in the pros while 5th OT Oher just has some red flags. I think the big unknown in the draft is how many QBs are taken in the top 11 picks 1, 2, or 3- I'm not convinced that Denver will take a QB in the 1st round but if you are a team in need of a QB can you take that chance? and how far has Josh Freeman come up. What about Freeman? If the guy is that good, wouldn't a big QB with a big arm be perfect for the Bills?
billybob Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 What about Freeman? If the guy is that good, wouldn't a big QB with a big arm be perfect for the Bills? I think the Bills are going to live and die with Edwards for at least one more season- is that a good decision, I don't know, there are things I like about Edwards (smart, adequate size, decent athlete not a statue) and things I don't like (less than elite arm strength, seems injury prone ) .
Lurker Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 everybody lies Hence, everything written/opined on the draft prior to April 26 is mere flatulance....
The Big Cat Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Hence, everything written/opined on the draft prior to April 26 is mere flatulance.... Here here! You might as well post/follow predictions for the NYS lottery.
robkmil Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 What about Freeman? If the guy is that good, wouldn't a big QB with a big arm be perfect for the Bills? We don't already have a young starting QB that we are trying to groom? What do you suggest, draft a QB first every year? Tebow next year!!!
pimp on da' net Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Just going by history with the Bills, they usually dont value one year wonders sorto- speak ( every since bein shot in the foot with E. Flowers). That being said a guy like Ayers, Matthews and Maybin although good players don't seem to fit the mold of 1st rd. pick of this organization at the #11 spot. They seem to want guys with a track record of starting a few years, even guys who didn't have such a good senior yr....That being said here are my top 5 (excluding possible trade of our franchise OLT) 1. Orakpo-DE/OLB 2. M. Johnson-DE/ OLB 3. B. Raji- DT 4. T. Jackson- DE 5. E. Brown - DE/OLB
Astrobot Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 What are the chances the Bills Brass can pull off a Trifecta like Lynch, Poz, Edwards again this year? There are 3 more attractive draft combinations where we could possibly have 3 starters this year: TE, DE, OLB---Pettigrew, Johnson, Sidbury (or Pettigrew, Barwin, Brown--less likely) DE, OLB, TE---E-Brown, English, Casey (or Coffman but he's not what we're looking for) OLB, DE, TE---Cushing/Matthews, Johnson, Casey These are the best 3 combinations IMHO. If I had to guess what the Bills brass do, it'll be #1, hopefully garnering another RD3 pick along the way for a Guard (Levitre, Urbik), glamour pick (Ramses Barden) or FS (Darcel McBath).
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