DazedandConfused Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 , the Bills’ most prudent move could very well be stockpiling picks. http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+W...rapup040509.htm If they trade Peters to stockpile picks the sad thing is that this will be an admission that the future is not now but that the future is the future. Such a surrender would likely mean: 1. The Bills are gonna go with a rookie or a journeyman at LT and one of his main jobs will be to protect our investment in Edwards by protecting this already once concussed (and a loser of PT to a couple of other injuries during his brief time as a pro) blindside. Even a talented player like Oher deny it or not is gonna be a rookie next year and will have to spend some time learning how to be a vet. Lets hope if they trade away Peters for a rook or a journeyman LT that this player does not get taught his lessons that he must learn by watching Edwards get carted off the field. If Peters gets traded maybe we get lucky and get Clady, but the real world occurrences are that a team gets an overall bust like a Mike Williams or a rookie season bust like McKinnie. Going with the devil you do not know rather than the devil you know seems like a fools move IMHO. 2. We burn the one year we are guaranteed to have TO. We have great potential to have an incredibly potent passing game with Evans and TO both really demanding a dt. If one throws in Parrish going one on one in a 3 WR set, or the Bills learning how to reap good college receiving play from Lynch into his pro game we can be quite formidable. The problem is that if Edwards spends all of his time running for his life or on his butt due to OL failure we waste the year. If we trade Peters maybe the rookie/journeyman works out but probably not based on past experience. 3. Ralph better not die this year. The future really is now and committing to the draft as the method for building the team simply likely condemns us to another year or two in the non-playoff wilderness.
Big Hurt Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 Why should the Bills trade Peters? Here is the math, they are giving Peters $6M more a year to play football. If he does not sign the contract, he will lose $12M. He will turn 29 when his contract is up, that is if the Bills does not tag him for another year. If he play until he is 33, to make up for the $12M, he will have to be paid $3M extra per year (over his market value). He will never recover that money. So I think he is not in a good position to play hard ball, unless his calculator is out of batteries. But he maybe to stupid to realize it. The best thing for the Bills to do is to draft an OT that can play guard in second round. You can never have too many OL in this league. Then let see what Peters wants to do. Trading him would be like backing down. Other players on this team and their agents are all watching this. What if Peters hold out? He already did that once. We didn't go 0-16. In fact, they were winning games without him. They even won games with him playing poorly. He is just one piece of the puzzle. You cannot let him think that he is the whole team. Why should the Bills trade him unless it is good business for the Bills? Why are some of you guys so afraid of him holding out again? That's exactly what Parker and Peters want. There are another 52 players on this team. They will go to work and try to win.
DazedandConfused Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 Why should the Bills trade him unless it is good business for the Bills? Why are some of you guys so afraid of him holding out again? That's exactly what Parker and Peters want. There are another 52 players on this team. They will go to work and try to win. I don't think that a lot of folks on this board want so badly to be done with Peters and want to screw this non-team guy miscreant that they want to trade him that they do not realize that trading him rewards Peters big time. Few or no teams are gonna trade for him merely to inherit the same holdouts the Bills are dealing with and a new team almost certainly means the new contract Peters is looking for. Just as you argue that the players and agents are watching to see if the Bills back down, and they will react appropriately, so to they will calculate that if the Bills trade Peters that the method to take with this team should be one of getting in their face like Peters did last year, being seen by the NFL as playing well (which whether you feel his Pro Bowl slot was deserved or not the league gave him a Pro Bowl slot and all players think they are great or will be great) and then force a trade and make out like a bandit. Peters and his agent have the same calculators the Bills do and he has made the calculation that the Bills must either backdown by caving into his demands or backdown by trading him. The ONLY way to confront him is to hold him and make him play to his contract. The obvious choice for Peters if he only wants the money is to escalate this dispute by missing the voluntary practices, sitting out the pre-season again, and if he wants even sitting out a couple of games. The Bills only win here is if Peters play. Peters can win eventually by not playing and laughing all the way to the bank on the millions he has collected so far for his play which has won him two Pro berths. Folks need to realize that unless he is a Travis Henry type fool Peters is in a strong position here to get the Bills to give him what he wants either by signing him or by trading him.
spartacus Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 I don't think 6-60 will do it, from what I read he wants to be the highest paid tackle and isn't budging. At LEAST 6-70+ with ton up front is what he's looking for. I find it interesting that everyone cites Peters need to be the highest paid tackle as a hard demand, when he has refused to negoitate thru the media and has made no public comments at all about his contract. The only info available is the propaganda put out by Brandon's spin doctors. The Bills are probably the only team in the league that does their negotiating thru the media.
Kelly the Dog Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 I find it interesting that everyone cites Peters need to be the highest paid tackle as a hard demand, when he has refused to negoitate thru the media and has made no public comments at all about his contract. The only info available is the propaganda put out by Brandon's spin doctors. The Bills are probably the only team in the league that does their negotiating thru the media. Can you imagine a world where Jason Peters has done what he has done, while his agents are at the negotiating table with the Bills, and are slamming their fists on the table, foaming at the mouth, while screaming, "Damnit, we are not signing unless Jason Peters is the sixth or seventh highest paid tackle in the league!!!"
BillsFan Trapped in Pats Land Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 What team DOESN'T use the media to negotiate?
spartacus Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 What team DOESN'T use the media to negotiate? The good teams
BillsFan Trapped in Pats Land Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 The good teams Really, I read the Boston Globe and Herald every day and the Patriots do it all the time. I know the Giants do it.
billnutinphoenix Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 If the Bills trade Peters, then they have to sign another OL because they won't be able to replenish their left side of their line solely through the draft...My vote is to sign LG Kendall Simmons ASAP if they decide to trade Peters...
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