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NFLDraftBible.com reports that Florida WR Percy Harvin, Illinois CB Vontae Davis, and UTEP K Jose Martinez all tested positive for marijuana at February's Combine.

The website also claims that USC OLBs Brian Cushing and Clay Matthews tested positive for steroids. Information like this is sometimes circulated by teams in hopes players' stocks will fall and no other reputable sources have picked up the reports to this point, so take this cautiously. Harvin, Davis, Matthews, and Cushing are all projected first-round picks. Apr. 3 - 1:51 am et

 

 

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines...L&hl=141999

 

 

All unconfirmed at this point, but if it's true... i doubt Curshing and Matthews will be 1st rounders.

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NFLDraftBible.com reports that Florida WR Percy Harvin, Illinois CB Vontae Davis, and UTEP K Jose Martinez all tested positive for marijuana at February's Combine.

The website also claims that USC OLBs Brian Cushing and Clay Matthews tested positive for steroids. Information like this is sometimes circulated by teams in hopes players' stocks will fall and no other reputable sources have picked up the reports to this point, so take this cautiously. Harvin, Davis, Matthews, and Cushing are all projected first-round picks. Apr. 3 - 1:51 am et

 

 

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines...L&hl=141999

 

 

All unconfirmed at this point, but if it's true... i doubt Curshing and Matthews will be 1st rounders.

 

Clay is Bruce Matthews' son and Clay Matthews nephew, I believe? Can a young man coming out of college into the NFL be any STUPIDER then he, with that kind of pedigree and experience to learn from, if he indeed is juicing?? :thumbsup:

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So the minorities smoke herb and the white dudes use steroids.....the more things change, the more they stay the same.

I don't think that it's that simple. The NFL has a drug problem and it involves many ethnicities using many different drugs. I'd say it's almost impossible to link certain drugs to specific racial groups, anymore. I'm guessing their are a fair amount of HGH users in the NFL as well.

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Clay is Bruce Matthews' son and Clay Matthews nephew, I believe? Can a young man coming out of college into the NFL be any STUPIDER then he, with that kind of pedigree and experience to learn from, if he indeed is juicing?? :thumbsup:

 

 

What are you talking about??? He probably learned how to juice from his father & his uncle.

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No doubt. That would explain the longevity of their careers.

Is it fair to tarnish a players reputation, and or legacy by commenting on unconfirmed internet rumors?....I am not passing judgement until more facts are out, i think others should do the same. And i doubt any rumors would hurt draft stock, look at players like Warren Sapp, who had a positive weed test prior to his draft. Who here wouldnt love to see a player like Matthews in a Bills uni?

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Is it fair to tarnish a players reputation, and or legacy by commenting on unconfirmed internet rumors?....I am not passing judgement until more facts are out, i think others should do the same. And i doubt any rumors would hurt draft stock, look at players like Warren Sapp, who had a positive weed test prior to his draft. Who here wouldnt love to see a player like Matthews in a Bills uni?

Sapp dropped from maybe #1 overall to 12th

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Is it fair to tarnish a players reputation, and or legacy by commenting on unconfirmed internet rumors?....I am not passing judgement until more facts are out, i think others should do the same. And i doubt any rumors would hurt draft stock, look at players like Warren Sapp, who had a positive weed test prior to his draft. Who here wouldnt love to see a player like Matthews in a Bills uni?

 

If it ain't true, then it's probably libel.

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If it ain't true, then it's probably libel.

Does it really matter? If they did test positive, then don't NFL teams already know it?

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Clay is Bruce Matthews' son and Clay Matthews nephew, I believe? Can a young man coming out of college into the NFL be any STUPIDER then he, with that kind of pedigree and experience to learn from, if he indeed is juicing?? :thumbsup:

 

"Stupider"?

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Is it fair to tarnish a players reputation, and or legacy by commenting on unconfirmed internet rumors?....I am not passing judgement until more facts are out, i think others should do the same. And i doubt any rumors would hurt draft stock, look at players like Warren Sapp, who had a positive weed test prior to his draft. Who here wouldnt love to see a player like Matthews in a Bills uni?

I don't know about wanting him in a Bill's uniform... many years ago I thought pre-draft Tony Mandarich would look good in Buffalo Blue...

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Clay is Bruce Matthews' son and Clay Matthews nephew, I believe? Can a young man coming out of college into the NFL be any STUPIDER then he, with that kind of pedigree and experience to learn from, if he indeed is juicing?? :thumbsup:

 

Are you joking? You know that a very few of them don't juice. They are all on the stuff. It's when they get caught that's the problem. What makes this funny to me is how people frown on baseball for roids, and those guy are tiny to college and NFL players, and people don't see the connection.

 

Do you really think players just genetically got bigger since the 70's?

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I personally will take all the steriod users and dope smokers I can if they are as talented as these guys (assuming the reason they are good is not the juice, with a guy like Cushing I think thats the case. As for Harvin, Rajij and Davis, i highly doubt the weed makes them better ball players). I have admitted to myself long ago that most of the league has juiced at somepoint, and that probably 75% of them burn one down from time to time. I dont care as long as they play well. Now if Kelsay got caught on the Juice i would be pissed. How can you juice and be that bad?

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Whatever the truth is, these are all very good football players. I suspect they will all do well in the NFL wherever they are drafted.

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Clay is Bruce Matthews' son and Clay Matthews nephew, I believe? Can a young man coming out of college into the NFL be any STUPIDER then he, with that kind of pedigree and experience to learn from, if he indeed is juicing?? :thumbsup:

 

 

 

First off Clay Mathews Jr. HELLO!!!!!!!! isn't Bruce's son.... What is "STUPIDER" you thinking that or juicing doesn't happen.

C'mon the criteria for failing a steroid drug test is that you have to have over 5X the amount of testosterone then a normally level and a normal level is 280-1200 range so you do the math and tell me how much more test can be acceptable.

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