Tipster19 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 What a vast improvement that would mean for this anemic offense. I believe that it could even be more TDs but I wanted to post a realistic projection. That's what all the national experts are overlooking, we haven't had a double digit TD receiver in years and this season we might even have two. Wow! Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 What a vast improvement that would mean for this anemic offense. I believe that it could even be more TDs but I wanted to post a realistic projection. That's what all the national experts are overlooking, we haven't had a double digit TD receiver in years and this season we might even have two. Wow! Go Bills! Disclaimer***not a direct comparison*** When Moulds (power) and Price (speed) were running hard, they collected 19 TD's and 2500 yards. I can see a little of this combo, with some added speed with TO and Lee Again, this isn't a lock prediction but I'm sure it will be nit picked by you animals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 Disclaimer***not a direct comparison*** When Moulds (power) and Price (speed) were running hard, they collected 19 TD's and 2500 yards. I can see a little of this combo, with some added speed with TO and Lee Again, this isn't a lock prediction but I'm sure it will be nit picked by you animals I just realized looking at your avatar that I and the Bills have been in existence the same amount of time! Wow! I AM the Bills! LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I expect similar numbers from our WRs, Tipster. But it all hinges on Trent staying healthy and playing a full 16, as well as him taking the next step and playing like he did in the first half of the season. I'm high on Trent and thing he will emerge as the answer at QB we've been waiting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyDingo Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 TO + Evans = 18+ TDs (Dick Jauron+Turk Schonert)/Marshawn Suspension*AFC East (Opening Night Blowout+ Trent Injury)= -8 TDs I'm sorry, blame Pythagoras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOOBY Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Maybe even more TD's if we get some draft picks for Peters that can actually protect Trent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Maybe even more TD's if we get some draft picks for Peters that can actually protect Trent. if they screw up the Peters deal and trade him, the bills offense will be totally non-functional. they won't score 18 Tds in total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 if they screw up the Peters deal and trade him, the bills offense will be totally non-functional. they won't score 18 Tds in total. Who is to say that the Bills wont draft a Pro Bowl caliber tackle like the Phins or Broncos did last year? If you could trade Peters for the Eagles two firsts, and come away with a tackle as good as Ryan Clady at 11 (Clady was drafted 12th), I think its a no brainer because Clady is better than Peters if you use last year as the barometer. Obviously the problem is the draft is so uncertain you can never bank on getting a quality starter, even at 11. Regardless of what happens, the Bills wont score 18 TDs without adressing their OL problems. The Bills let two holes at C and LG become wide open this off season, and have a huge mess at LT with Peters contract. Why cut Dockery and not replace him, he only saved .5 mil in cap space. Yea he was not the best, but better than what we have now. Signing one former reserve center is not enough. Having Peters deal still un-resolved is not good, I expect another hold out. Adding TO is a marketing move. Instead of spending 6.5 mill on TV ads to sell tickets they spent it on TO. Thats how that deal should be viewed. Now if the Bills want to build a winning team, which it would seem like they dont, they will focus on the trenches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Who is to say that the Bills wont draft a Pro Bowl caliber tackle like the Phins or Broncos did last year? If you could trade Peters for the Eagles two firsts, and come away with a tackle as good as Ryan Clady at 11 (Clady was drafted 12th), I think its a no brainer because Clady is better than Peters if you use last year as the barometer. Obviously the problem is the draft is so uncertain you can never bank on getting a quality starter, even at 11. Regardless of what happens, the Bills wont score 18 TDs without adressing their OL problems. The Bills let two holes at C and LG become wide open this off season, and have a huge mess at LT with Peters contract. Why cut Dockery and not replace him, he only saved .5 mil in cap space. Yea he was not the best, but better than what we have now. Signing one former reserve center is not enough. Having Peters deal still un-resolved is not good, I expect another hold out. Adding TO is a marketing move. Instead of spending 6.5 mill on TV ads to sell tickets they spent it on TO. Thats how that deal should be viewed. Now if the Bills want to build a winning team, which it would seem like they dont, they will focus on the trenches. because the 2 top LT who could start will be gone by #5. you are seriously delusional if you think Clady is better than Peters. but that is the problem with the Bills, they have no ability to evaluate and grade OL talent (their own,draft picks or free agents) they cut Dockery for god knows what reason, and he is signed the next day (if not the same day). The Bills have no ability to identify and draft OL talent - why will that change in 2009?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonawanda Troy Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 18 TD's is a modest estimate, Any less than 20 will be a disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 because the 2 top LT who could start will be gone by #5. you are seriously delusional if you think Clady is better than Peters. but that is the problem with the Bills, they have no ability to evaluate and grade OL talent (their own,draft picks or free agents) they cut Dockery for god knows what reason, and he is signed the next day (if not the same day). The Bills have no ability to identify and draft OL talent - why will that change in 2009?? They cut Dockery because he's no better than a midlling vet guard being paid $900,000. He's literally a dime a dozen player in terms of performance, and therefore easily replaceable. He was terrible last year - no better than Tutan Reyes. If it was your money, why would you fork over $7 million? I'd keep the money and get a replacement. I'm a Peters fan, but do you really think he outperformed Clady last year? The guy dominated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Wow you really think TO will get 15 TD's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Both of our WR's having double digit TD's this season would mean Trent throwing at least 20-25 touchdowns, and I just don't see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 because the 2 top LT who could start will be gone by #5. you are seriously delusional if you think Clady is better than Peters. Seriously? Clady is far better than Peters, hands down. Finding a replacement for a guy who gave up 11.5 sacks in 13 games won't be all that difficult either, especially if he is traded for a first round draft pick or two. This is a very deep draft for offensive linemen. If Peters is traded (has anyone addressed this yet?) Beatty from UConn would be a solid replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 T.O 1100yds 10 TDs Lee 1300yds 14 TDs Roscoe 600yds 6 TDs Reed 500yds 3 TDs Lock it up The reason (besides some glaring talent issues) is we haven't had a legit #2 in a long ass time. Name one team without a #2 where a #1 has over 1000 yds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanahan's Horseshoe Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 T.O 1100yds 10 TDsLee 1300yds 14 TDs Roscoe 600yds 6 TDs Reed 500yds 3 TDs Lock it up The reason (besides some glaring talent issues) is we haven't had a legit #2 in a long ass time. Name one team without a #2 where a #1 has over 1000 yds So Edwards is gonna throw for 3500 yds and 33TD's to JUST his 1-4 WR's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 T.O 1100yds 10 TDsLee 1300yds 14 TDs Roscoe 600yds 6 TDs Reed 500yds 3 TDs Lock it up The reason (besides some glaring talent issues) is we haven't had a legit #2 in a long ass time. Name one team without a #2 where a #1 has over 1000 yds Edwards must have a great arm to throw that many TD's while lying on his back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Edwards must have a great arm to throw that many TD's while lying on his back. Fitzpatrick...what? you all take this board way too seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABURZFAN Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 you are seriously delusional if you think Clady is better than Peters. i would take Clady over Peters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 i would take Clady over Peters. Same here. Clady let in 0.5 sacks this season, his rookie season, for what ended up being the pass happy Broncos. Maybe he is not as strong a run blocker as Peters, but this is the LT spot. Pass blocking is what matters... no Bills fan is bringing up his run blocking ability, just how many sacks he allowed (Peters tat is). Can we get a Ryan CLady this year at 11? Maybe, if A. Smaith falls and is not the next Mike Willaims, then maybe. Id rather sign Peters for a realistic rate, aka much less than what Jake long makes (Yes Long is better than Peters). This is the NFL... what have you done for me recently? Our OL is in shambles, lets not hide it. Three returning starters, one in a big contract ordeal, on a line as average/bad as ours was is something to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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