billsfan_34 Posted March 28, 2009 Author Posted March 28, 2009 There is plenty of room for parking downtown Buffalo, by the waterfront. And places to eat and drink too. But dont you think NF could be a fun venue too? The logistics would be extremely difficult though.
BuffaloBill Posted March 28, 2009 Posted March 28, 2009 If you could set aside the issue of the billion or so that is needed to build a modern NFL ready stadium (no small issue to ignore the cost) NF would be a perfect location. You get much closer to the Canadian market, you boost tourism in the falls and you build on the regional concept for the franchise. The reality is that the fact that the Ralph is without debt is very significant.
rackemrack Posted March 28, 2009 Posted March 28, 2009 The reality is that the fact that the Ralph is without debt is very significant. maybe ralph is saving his money for a new stadium...
SKOOBY Posted March 28, 2009 Posted March 28, 2009 maybe ralph is saving his money for a new stadium... I'm sure the family wants to blow their inheritance on a new stadium for the team they will sell. That's like trading in a car and continuing to pay on it, why trade it.
apuszczalowski Posted March 28, 2009 Posted March 28, 2009 And places to eat and drink too. But dont you think NF could be a fun venue too? The logistics would be extremely difficult though. Its kind of ghetto on the american side of the Falls, Scoob's probably just worried about parking his car there. People could steal it, sell it and buy many homes there for what its worth
SKOOBY Posted March 28, 2009 Posted March 28, 2009 Its kind of ghetto on the american side of the Falls, Scoob's probably just worried about parking his car there. People could steal it, sell it and buy many homes there for what its worth I live in SW FL, so I don't getting drive it up there. Great driving weather here lately, in the 80's for about 2 months with almost no rain.
Guest dog14787 Posted March 28, 2009 Posted March 28, 2009 Its kind of ghetto on the american side of the Falls, Scoob's probably just worried about parking his car there. People could steal it, sell it and buy many homes there for what its worth Niagara Falls has allot of potential to draw folks from not just here in our country, but from Canada and around the world. The American side of the falls is kind of ghetto and its all the more reason something should be done to make improvements. Because of the close proximity, Buffalo stands to gain more than it would lose by improving the American side of the falls with a new Stadium making it a win, win situation.
rackemrack Posted March 28, 2009 Posted March 28, 2009 I'm sure the family wants to blow their inheritance on a new stadium for the team they will sell. That's like trading in a car and continuing to pay on it, why trade it. if and when they don't sell the team, a new stadium would be a great investment in the team and in the community of buffalo or niagara falls.
Big Turk Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 Niagara Falls is a car swallowing pot hole filled cess-pool with more vacant and abandoned houses than Buffalo... trust me, I work there, and travel throughout the streets all day...the only nice area is when you get off the I190 and turn right heading towards Military Rd, and up by the casino...other than that forget it...
ET1062 Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 Niagara Falls makes so much sense that it will never happen. Consider this.... The hotel capacity on both sides of the border from Mid Sept. - Mar. (the Non tourist season) Possible Superbowl, NCAA Regional Finals or Final Four. Canadians could park in NF Ont and walk across the Rainbow bridge. On a clear day you could see both Buffalo and Toronto from the cheap seats. As part of the stadium complex there could be year round tourist attractions. (Bills HOF, NFL Experience others) Like the Patriots did, build a mall attached to the stadium. The one thing the Canadian side of the falls can not compete with is "Americana" Tourists from Asia, South America and Europe want a piece of "Americana" In the mall, house the following anchor stores (Disney, Harley Davidson, Levi Strauss others...) Niagara Falls has so much potential, the entire city could be bulldozed and we would be starting with a clean canvas. Just my two cents.
The Dean Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 Niagara Falls is a car swallowing pot hole filled cess-pool with more vacant and abandoned houses than Buffalo... trust me, I work there, and travel throughout the streets all day...the only nice area is when you get off the I190 and turn right heading towards Military Rd, and up by the casino...other than that forget it... It's the truth. Now, I think a stadium in the Falls might be one of the first steps toward getting some urban renewal going on in the area. But, it is likely simply a pipe-dream. Niagara Falls (proper) simply is not an ideal place for a stadium.
billsfan_34 Posted March 29, 2009 Author Posted March 29, 2009 Niagara Falls is a car swallowing pot hole filled cess-pool with more vacant and abandoned houses than Buffalo... trust me, I work there, and travel throughout the streets all day...the only nice area is when you get off the I190 and turn right heading towards Military Rd, and up by the casino...other than that forget it... Thats not the point. The point is to re vitalize the place.
Leonidas Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 Thats not the point. The point is to re vitalize the place. You expect an NFL owner to move a team to a location to revitalize the area? I'm not sure you understand why a team moves. A team will move to Toronto or L.A. because it sells tickets. Unless I'm mistaken, there are no wealthy owners from NF-US. Why would anyone move them there??
ET1062 Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 You expect an NFL owner to move a team to a location to revitalize the area? I'm not sure you understand why a team moves. A team will move to Toronto or L.A. because it sells tickets. Unless I'm mistaken, there are no wealthy owners from NF-US. Why would anyone move them there?? New York State would be building this new stadium to keep the the Bills from moving. Granted, with todays economy the State spending a Billion dollars on a Niagara Falls stadium sounds ridiculous, but that is just a fraction of the money our new savior, Jesus Obama, is spending of our grandchildrens money. As long as we are pissing away the future, we may as well spend it on something I enjoy.
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 Just knock down ECC South and put a stadium there. Or dig up the green Manhattan Project goo in Lackawanna and put a stadium there.... Half-Life Field
Guest dog14787 Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 New York State would be building this new stadium to keep the the Bills from moving. Granted, with todays economy the State spending a Billion dollars on a Niagara Falls stadium sounds ridiculous, but that is just a fraction of the money our new savior, Jesus Obama, is spending of our grandchildrens money. As long as we are pissing away the future, we may as well spend it on something I enjoy. He's the president, he has to spend our grand children's money, geesh, ours was spent a long time ago. What ever the price may be for a new stadium, lets also remember the jobs it creates to build that stadium, the jobs it creates in the development around the new Stadium. The increased revenues from the people that come there to live and work or the increase in tourist activity. Does anybody really think things will get better in Buffalo or anywhere else by staying stagnant and doing nothing?
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 If you can find a way to bilk the state for a stadium, go for it.
Big Turk Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 Thats not the point. The point is to re vitalize the place. if that were a concern for NYS, they would allow the city to keep the revenue it earns by being a tourist mecca instead of handing it all to the state...
Offside Number 76 Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 I just wanted to know how everyone else felt about re locating to Niagara Falls. I myself am torn. On one hand I like the idea. Imagine this. A state of the art stadium with the falls as the backdrop. Hotels for tourists and things to do. Money will get put back into the city of NF and then the city can begin to rebuild and gain much needed tourism dollars. How nice would it be if our side looked like the other side but better with a beautiful stadium. On the other hand, I cant imagine the Bills not being in erie county. It would seem strange at first but maybe we could get used to it. I think for the Bills to remain in Erie County they have to put the stadium downtown on the waterfront. Dont get me wrong, Orchard Park is fun and easy access. But the stadium itself is really a second rate stadium now. When you walk in it feels dreary and uninviting. I figured this would be a fun topic to talk about instead of Ralph has passed, Ralph is alive, or some of the other silly and disrespectful posts that have been posted lately. Semper Fi 1. The county shouldn't matter. DC and NYG/NYJ aren't even in the same state (or district) as the teams named after those cities. NF (US) is a suburb just like OP is, regardless of where the county lines are drawn. To some of us in Buffalo (and I mean the city of Buffalo), NF is closer than OP. From my West Side house, NF is about 20 mins, and OP, 30. It would hardly change the local character of the team, much less the name. 2. It would boost tourism. 3. There is not much to do in NF, but there is NOTHING to do in OP. 4. There is a lot of vacant land, because there are a lot of closed production facilities. Frankly, except for the fact that NF is more corrupt than any other area in the free world, it's a really good idea. Really good. What's the real downside?
muddleman Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 I live in Lewistom which is a stones throw away from the Falls and as much as I would love the commute (season ticket holder since 1980 when I was 18 years old) It will never happen. The only hope IMO is maybe towards Rochester maybe Lancaster.
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