Chef Jim Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 But when Obama says it, it's what now? Not that I disagree with it but is this the change he talked about?
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 But when Obama says it, it's what now? Not that I disagree with it but is this the change he talked about? man, am I tired of hearing about 9/11
RkFast Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 man, am I tired of hearing about 9/11 Then LOOK at it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg8FQiJ-Rcw...feature=related
Chef Jim Posted March 27, 2009 Author Posted March 27, 2009 man, am I tired of hearing about 9/11 And here is problem number one with Americans today.
drnykterstein Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 When Bush Said it, it was Leading by Fear I don't think anyone argued against the attack in Afghanistan. But yeah, when Bush attacked Iraq and blamed it on terrorists, it was fear mongering. Same thing with the (ironically named) Patriot Act, abusing the publics fears to become a democratic dictator.
KD in CA Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 Same thing with the (ironically named) Patriot Act, abusing the publics fears to become a dictator. A dictator? Where? Doesn't Iraq have elections now?
drnykterstein Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 A dictator? Where? Doesn't Iraq have elections now? You are not even trying. Anyways, I'm referring to what some experts have called Bush and all his abuses of power.
DC Tom Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 And here is problem number one with Americans today. What's that, continually living in the past. Americans simply dont' understand the difference between knowing the past, and being continually victimized by the past.
Chef Jim Posted March 27, 2009 Author Posted March 27, 2009 You are not even trying. Anyways, I'm referring to what some experts have called Bush and all his abuses of power. So John Dean is some experts? Someone needs to get a better grasp of grammar. Not saying my grasp is all that great but your's is pretty messed up.
drnykterstein Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 ??? Are you saying he's the only professional who has ever call GWB a dictator?
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 My 2 Cents I had no problem with going after THE group that caused 9/11. Bush dropped the ball when he abandoned Afghanistan's war and rushed off to his "own" war. Hey the Surge worked in Iraq.. Why shouldn't the Surge work in Afghanistan?
Chef Jim Posted March 27, 2009 Author Posted March 27, 2009 ??? Are you saying he's the only professional who has ever call GWB a dictator? I've not heard anyone call him a dictator. I usually don't listen to crackpots....other than you of course.
DC Tom Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 My 2 Cents I had no problem with going after THE group that caused 9/11. Bush dropped the ball when he abandoned Afghanistan's war and rushed off to his "own" war. Hey the Surge worked in Iraq.. Why shouldn't the Surge work in Afghanistan? Because Afghanistan and Iraq are different? Results of last "surge" in Afghanistan.
VABills Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 Because Afghanistan and Iraq are different? Results of last "surge" in Afghanistan. What you can't bring tanks and other armored units into the mountains? What do you know, the media says they can.
KD in CA Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 You are not even trying. Anyways, I'm referring to what some experts have called Bush and all his abuses of power. Some experts? And then a link to John Dean? What is he an expert at? Being a paranoid retard like you? I bet if you were out of diapers in the '80s you would have been convinced that Reagan was going to start a nuclear war too.
Adam Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 What you can't bring tanks and other armored units into the mountains? What do you know, the media says they can. Mountains, shmountains......get rid of the mountains
DC Tom Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 What you can't bring tanks and other armored units into the mountains? What do you know, the media says they can. Or boats. By which I mean BIG boats. Like ships. That carry supplies. Logistics is more important that front-line combat power, and logistics is a lot easier when you have access to things like ports.
/dev/null Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 is this the change he talked about? The King is dead. Long live the King
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 Because Afghanistan and Iraq are different? Results of last "surge" in Afghanistan. YES they are different. Put the Bush Kool Aide down. There WERE NO LINKS to AlQaeda in Iraq. Osama was in Afghanistan / Pakistan. NOT Iraq .... AlQaeda was NOT in Iraq before Bush invaded....
erynthered Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 There WERE NO LINKS to AlQaeda in Iraq. We now know that was after the fact. Both sides of the aisle agreed that AQ was there. Also numorus different Countries including ours that had intell that said they were there. Albeit faulty intell but thats what happened. Get it right......
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