macaroni Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 When we picked up T.O. I thought it was a GREAT pick up by the Bills, now that the dust has settled, I've decided to not drink the Kool-aid. Getting T.O. was a brillient Marketing decision. He generated interest in a fan base that was about to revolt and re-energized season ticket sales. No doubt jersey sales will sky rocket. He really got the media "Talking Bills" and any publicity at this point in the season is good advertisement. ..... BUT IMHO picking up T.O. was a pretty dog doo-doo football decision. For it to be a good football decision it should have been a move to get us in the playoffs, set us up to go deep into the playoffs in the near future, and ultimatly to get int and win the super bowl. Bottom line is, when we picked up T.O. we needed to (in a football sense) do these things in order of priority; Get a Left Guard Resign our Left Tackle (or get a new one) Get a pass rush Get a TE that we can use as a weapon Get an OLB Get a viable #2 WR to take some heat from Evens What we ended up doing is; renting T.O. for one year. While I agree that T.O. will make our recieving corps better ...... so what. Does it get us closer to the play offs? No Will he be around next year? No Will this move put butts in the seats and dollars in the Bills pocket? You betcha So like I said ..... I'm not impressed ....... standing with my arms crossed waiting on the draft, but I have little or no hope we can fill our needs on draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Don't get too uptight about it just yet....I can't stand the guy's antics or attitude, either, but once you realize that it's a pure marketing move that is somewhat low-risk, you'll get over it. Yes, they need to better the OL. Yes, they need a DE. Yes, they need a tight end. Yes, they could use an OLB. There's still time during the offseason - the draft hasn't even happened yet, so who knows what players they can get or what trades could be made leading up to draft day. I'm not rushing to pre-order my TO jersey and there's a snowball's chance in Miami that I actually will. But let's see what he can do and how the offense can be improved. I'm cautiously optimistic, but if he pulls any stupid stunts, he can be dumped w/o much penalty and his career may very well be over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 So your criticizing the TO move for what it isn't? The Bills were in the market for a vet WR. They looked at Coles (who wouldn't take $6 mil) and Galloway. Would you feel better with one of them, instead of TO? This deal is what it is. Feel free to complain about what the Bills have yet to accomplish, this offseason, but I'm not sure why you choose to blame the TO deal for those shortcomings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 It worked from a business standpoint. Jersey sales and the revival of stagnant season ticket sales. One year deal, low risk because he wants one more pay day. It'll either work incredibly well or be an utter disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 It worked from a business standpoint. Jersey sales and the revival of stagnant season ticket sales. One year deal, low risk because he wants one more pay day. It'll either work incredibly well or be an utter disaster. Not only stagnant, but I thought they were actually declining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted March 20, 2009 Author Share Posted March 20, 2009 So your criticizing the TO move for what it isn't? The Bills were in the market for a vet WR. They looked at Coles (who wouldn't take $6 mil) and Galloway. Would you feel better with one of them, instead of TO? This deal is what it is. Feel free to complain about what the Bills have yet to accomplish, this offseason, but I'm not sure why you choose to blame the TO deal for those shortcomings. I'm not exactly criicizing the T.O. deal ..... just needed a LAMP post to voice my initial euphoria over the deal and most recient realization that we aren't making the team better ..... we are just marketing the team for this year. As far as the Coles and Galloway stuff ..... (and I think neither one can carry T.O.s jock as far as talent level goes) .... if the front office felt they would help at WR, we could have gotten either for long term rather than renting T.O. for one year, and still have gotten some help in a higher area of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Dust has settled.....drink the kool-aid..... Can you add a few more cliches, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted March 20, 2009 Author Share Posted March 20, 2009 It worked from a business standpoint. Jersey sales and the revival of stagnant season ticket sales. One year deal, low risk because he wants one more pay day. It'll either work incredibly well or be an utter disaster. Like I said ...... brillient marketing move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Like I said ...... brillient marketing move So by your own admission, there were 6 things you felt the Bills needed to do this offseason in order to try making the playoffs... They've now addressed 17% of the puzzle with many months to go before the season starts (including an entire draft), and you're complaining....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted March 20, 2009 Author Share Posted March 20, 2009 Dust has settled.....drink the kool-aid..... Can you add a few more cliches, please? We have to take this FA period one signing at a time. It's hard to win in the FA signing period. The FA period is won in the trenches. What we need is a "high motor" front office. FA period is a game of inches. Free Agents can nickle and dime you to death. Need more????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Heard of the Draft? You can probably address many of your problems in the first three rounds. Also the Bills have talent on the team that might be ready to step up this year. Ellis was a 3rd rounder last year who maybe is developing. The coaches know that better then us.Bell is another guy the Bills might like as one of the guys to step up and play Oline this year. If i remember correct he is on the same course Peters was. I guess i am not yet in panick mode. I think the team may/may not be totally done in FA. But there is no denyiny they have left some holes that must be addressed. The draft and whats already in the system just might be how they are going to fill those holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Does jersey sales and ticket sales go towards cap money for next season? If so, signing TO was a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 We have to take this FA period one signing at a time. It's hard to win in the FA signing period. The FA period is won in the trenches. What we need is a "high motor" front office. FA period is a game of inches. Free Agents can nickle and dime you to death. Need more????? That's a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kishoph Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 I see nothing wrong with using T.O. to help promote the team, he's gonna help this team. . The smart fan knows that T.O. being on the BILLS could mean more wins, not just because of his play, but how having him on the field should help those around him be more productive. No longer will EVANS see constant double teams or the teams best corner every play. The 3rd and 4th recievers will also have weaker coverages. The TE's may start seeing some LB's instead of safteys covering them. Teams will not be so quick to put 8 in the box to stop the run any longer. LYNCH and JACKSON should have more running room. Then there is T.O.'s attitude on and off the field. I see this as a plus. Last year this was a team of Zombies, it will be nice to see someone that does not like to lose, and knows how to win. His experience can be huge in teaching younger recievers. They'll be able to learn just from watching him. Then there's his training and practice habbits. T.O. is in great shape, hopefully this will also rub off on other players. The pluses far outweigh the negatives for having T.O. on the team. He may have an ego and does call peoople out at times. There's nothing wrong with holding players accountable for their poor play. I wish we could have another 4 - 5 T.O.'s on the team, maybe winning would come more frequently. Ticket sales have gone up because the fans know that the BILLS chances of winning are increased with T.O. on the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted March 20, 2009 Author Share Posted March 20, 2009 Heard of the Draft? Yep I've heard of it Starting Left Guard Quality pass rushing DE Starting OLB Starting pass catching TE oh yeah Stroud could use some help at DT Interior O-line depth needs some help A bit much to ask from this years draft dontcha' think? (and for nucci ..... a free agent in time saves nine) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 As more dust settles even more people will begin seeing the light of day and the negative possibiilties of this signing. Sure it was nothing more than a tactic to sell the lost season tickets from last season. But I have been against this move from the day that it was being talked about on these boards, maybe 3 or 4 days before it happened. I would never question his physical abilities, but he has destroyed his last seasons of all 3 teams he as played on before Buffalo, so why would we be different? Every penny of his money is guaranteed, so he has nothing monetarily to lose if he acts up and throws Trent or DJ under the bus, like he will if he is here long enough. I am with every true Bills fan out there, hoping this move is the piece we need to become competitive again, but I will have the skin color as Barney the Dinosaur holding my breath every time Trent doesn't go his way or over/under throws him. I will be routing for him and cheering him on because of the jersey and the Buffalo on his helmet not because of who he is, because he is a self-centered *ss, but anything he does won't surprise me even a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Every penny of his money is guaranteed, so he has nothing monetarily to lose if he acts up and throws Trent or DJ under the bus Are you serious? Do you think TO wants this to be his last year in the NFL? TO has his the rest of his career (however long that might be) at stake, this year. And $6.5 Million, is a drop in the bucket he hopes to cash in on, when the season is over. TO has far more to lose in this, than the Bills, who have nothing more than a little cash, on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Yep I've heard of it Starting Left Guard Quality pass rushing DE Starting OLB Starting pass catching TE oh yeah Stroud could use some help at DT Interior O-line depth needs some help A bit much to ask from this years draft dontcha' think? (and for nucci ..... a free agent in time saves nine) If you think a left guard - an easier position than RG, according to Ross Tucker - does more for an offense than an offense than a player like TO, you're crazy. Of course, you don't want someone crappy playing the position, but that's about the easiest position to plug a guy into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBum11 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 TO will help us a lot offensively, therefore will help us make the playoffs. As i see it, i think he will help out the running game a lot, as 8 in the box is something defenses wont try with him and evans split wide. Hes also a huge read zone threat, probably the best red zone threat at WR in the league outside moss. He makes our team better without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Has it occurred to anyone that maybe most players don't want to come play for Buffalo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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