billsfreak Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Dude, are you unemployed or what? Is this all you have to do with your time? I am so sure the NFL is going to restructure their divisional alignment so it will be easier for the Bills to get to the Superbowl, and make Derek Fine a star? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 So while the Bills were successful, the rules were cool, but now that the Bills are the NFL's version of the Kansas City Royals, we need to change it up? How about this. Get a better coach, draft better and go after proven veteran winners that have a little gas in the tank left. That strategy seems to work for the teams that try it, but the Bills insist on bringing in talentless high character guys, or talented no character guys. A good start would be to bring in somebody like D. Brooks. Sure, he's a little long in the tooth, but he's a true professional, he's been successful and won. Some of that professionalism may just rub off on the younger Bills players. Instead, the Bills bring in a guy like TO, who also may rub off on younger players, but not in a good way. Good post dude, at least there is one realist on these boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnarb Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Wouldn't mind seeing the NFL make it more sensibly regional/thematic bills, bengals, browns, indy patriots, jets, ravens, steelers miami, houston, jax, tenn denver, kc, oakland, san diego But that's probably the "I'm sick of being in Belichick's division" in me talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowtippur Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Wouldn't mind seeing the NFL make it more sensibly regional/thematic bills, bengals, browns, indy patriots, jets, ravens, steelers miami, houston, jax, tenn denver, kc, oakland, san diego But that's probably the "I'm sick of being in Belichick's division" in me talking. Wouldn't it be nice if we could compete and not have to feel like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 You can't have teams from the same city in the same division or conference. The networks that bid on the broadcast rights want to maximize their viewership, which relates to how much they'll pay, therefore it makes more sense to keep Jets/Giants, Oakland/SF, and Baltimore/Washington in seperate conferences. A more reasonable realignment: AFC East: Baltimore, Miami, NE, NYJ North : Buffalo, Cincy, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, South : Houston, Indianapolis, Tennessee, Jacksonville West : Denver, KC, Oakland, SD NFC East: Carolina, NYG, Philly, Washington North : Chicago, Detroit, GB, Minn South : Atlanta, NO, TB, St Louis West : Arizona, Dallas, SF, Seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNW_Bills_Fan Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 You can't have teams from the same city in the same division or conference. The networks that bid on the broadcast rights want to maximize their viewership, which relates to how much they'll pay, therefore it makes more sense to keep Jets/Giants, Oakland/SF, and Baltimore/Washington in seperate conferences. A more reasonable realignment: AFC East: Baltimore, Miami, NE, NYJ North : Buffalo, Cincy, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, South : Houston, Indianapolis, Tennessee, Jacksonville West : Denver, KC, Oakland, SD NFC East: Carolina, NYG, Philly, Washington North : Chicago, Detroit, GB, Minn South : Atlanta, NO, TB, St Louis West : Arizona, Dallas, SF, Seattle I like this. I just think the division games should be as close to each other as possibly can. This helps everyone. It helps with rivals and it helps with selling tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted March 19, 2009 Author Share Posted March 19, 2009 Dude, are you unemployed or what? Is this all you have to do with your time? I am so sure the NFL is going to restructure their divisional alignment so it will be easier for the Bills to get to the Superbowl, and make Derek Fine a star? I'm very employed. No need to worry about me. This was not a serious thread. Just pointing out that the Bills and a number of other teams don't compete. They don't do what it takes to win. During the early '90's run, the Bills had a high payroll. There was no cap then. They did what was necessary to compete persinnel-wise for a stretch of years. For whatever reason, they don't do that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 I think the trick here is that there isn't really a big enough set of teams at the top to make a whole conference. The league isn't 50:50 - it's 27 teams that are more or less on par with the Bills, then the Patriots, Redskins, Cowboys, Jets, and Giants. The top 16 teams by revenue go from Washington ($327M) to Seattle ($215) while the bottom is the Giants ($214M: I'm as surprised as you) to the Vikings ($125M). In a free spending conference, it'd essentially be the AL East, with few big-time teams and a lot of mild ones who really don't play by the same rules. Sure, it wouldn't be automatic for the big guys, but it wouldn't really be fair, if that's the goal. Additionally, I think, once this is set up, it will be difficult to keep revenue sharing fair, and TV contracts equitable. The Money Conference is going to take up almost all the airtime, while the Other Guys will make up a minor league. It makes it too simple for the Jerry Jones/Bob Kraft wing to just try to sell their own games' TV rights, since they need so much less from the other owners in terms of weekly opponents. Teams cannot sell their own games' TV rights. The games are the property of the NFL. Unless there is no cap, there is no free-spending conference. How about shirts vs. blouses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Mitchel Peters Lynch Evens Owens Whitner McGee Poz Schobel Off the top of my head these are all guys that are good. I cannot stand all the moaning about our talent level. We are getting better. Yeah we have been 7-9 the last three years, but we also have a lot of off season to go. There are still quality players on the market and the draft. The Bills are moving as quick as the other teams. If you are sick of the team and front office and the Owner find a new team. Oh and the alignment idea is a bad one. I am for realigning the divisions, but not that way. My suggestion Seattle San Fran San Diego Oakland Denver Dallas Houston Arizona Miami Tampa Jacksonville New Orleans St Louis Tennesee Atlanta Kansas City Minn Chicago Green Bay Indy New England Giants Jets Philly Baltimore Washington Pittsburg Carolina Buffalo Cleavland Detroit Cincinnati That is how I would break it out. Think of the fan rivalry. All games would be sold out because fans could follow there team to division games. with that realignment I can see Bills finally winning division. I do like an idea of having buffalo and cleveland in same conf same as detroit. Add Pitt and ya really have a mix of teams in very close proximity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 It might be time to take another look at the AFC-NFC conference breakdown and find a more meaningful and more equitable way to determine which teams make up each division and conference. The current system is a watered down holdover from the old AFL and NFL. Years ago each conference had sort of a personality. The AFC being the more offensive minded with the NFC being the more conservative and defensive minded conference. That seems to have all vanished now and the dream of parity has been replaced by the disparity of revenue with no end in sight. I propose that the conferences be divided based on revenue with the top 16 teams in one conference and the bottom 16 in another. Divisions would then be chosen geographically with realignment taking place every year based on the same criteria. Separate salary cap for each conference. Have each team play continue to play 4 games a year against non-conference opponents. This will return the Super Bowl to the glory years, a David vs Goliath matchup every year. Sure the better players will eventually migrate to the pricier conference, but that's OK. If you're Buffalo, you aren't signing or keeping many of those guys anyway. Why would you want to have to play against them most weeks? This new alignment would also help support decisions like having Jauron as your coach and would make it easier for Ralph and his front office to compete. It would make it easier for the Bills to get to a Super bowl. It would make players like Kelsay and Derek Fine stars. A guy like Edwards could probably promote his own line of gloves like Dan Marino once did. It might keep ticket and beer prices down. It would mean playing in a division each year against teams whose commitment to winning is more like that of the Bills. Why not? In some ways I really like your proposal of realignment, especially from a business perspective, but do we dare try to change rivalries that are so deep set and part of tradition now it could possibly hurt the game we seek to make better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 My suggestion Seattle San Fran San Diego Oakland Denver Dallas Houston Arizona Miami Tampa Jacksonville New Orleans St Louis Tennesee Atlanta Kansas City Minn Chicago Green Bay Indy New England Giants Jets Philly Baltimore Washington Pittsburgh Carolina Buffalo Cleavland Detroit Cincinnati That is how I would break it out. Think of the fan rivalry. All games would be sold out because fans could follow there team to division games. I really do like the idea of promoting a lot more regional rivalries. This would do that well. But it would hurt TV ratings big time. Right now, now matter which AFC East opponent the Bills are facing, a big market is involved, while a Bills vs anyone in that fictional division would not have a major market involved. The Bills division would do terribly in national interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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