How To Get What We Want

[Astrobot]

A Detroit fan emailed me today and asked, "Would the Bills trade their #11 to us for our #20 and our RD2 pick (#33)?

I'd do that in a heartbeat. I used DraftTek's Online Draft Simulator to make the trade and Grab Pettigrew.

Detroit likes it because they were after Curry and an O-Line guy in RD1.

(if you'd rather grab someone else, try it--directions are onsite):

 

Round Pick Team Selection Psn School CRI Delta ReachValue

1 1 Detroit Aaron Curry OLB43 Wake Forest P1 +0 Value

1 2 St Louis Michael Crabtree WRF Texas Tech P2Grab +0 Value

1 3 Kansas City BJ Raji DT34 Boston College P2 -4 Reach

1 4 Seattle Jason Smith OT Baylor P4 +1 Value

1 5 Cleveland Brian Orakpo DE43 Texas P1 -3 Reach

1 6 Cincinnati Eugene Monroe OT Virginia P1 +2 Value

1 7 Oakland Everette Brown DE43 Florida State P2 -2 Reach

1 8 Jacksonville Matthew Stafford QB Georgia P9Grab +3 Value

1 9 Green Bay Tyson Jackson DE43 LSU P1 -5 Reach

1 10 San Francisco Michael Oher OT Mississippi P3 -2 Reach

1 11 Detroit Andre Smith OT Alabama P3 -2 Reach

1 12 Denver Rey Maualuga ILB USC P3R -6 Reach

1 13 Washington James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio State P3T -11 Reach

1 14 New Orleans Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State P2 +8 Value

1 15 Houston Brian Cushing OLB43 USC P3 -2 Reach

1 16 San Diego Knowshon Moreno RBF Georgia P3 +1 Value

1 17 NY Jets Mark Sanchez QB USC P2 +6 Value

1 18 Chicago Jeremy Maclin WRF Missouri P3O +8 Value

1 19 Tampa Bay Peria Jerry DT43 Mississippi P2 -4 Reach

1 20 Buffalo Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St P2Grab -5 Reach

1 21 Philadelphia Chris Wells RBF Ohio State P3O +2 Value

1 22 Minnesota Vontae Davis CB Illinois P3O +6 Value

1 23 New England Clay Matthews OLB34 USC P3 +1 Value

1 24 Atlanta Aaron Maybin OLB43 Penn State P2 -3 Reach

1 25 Miami Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest P2 -3 Reach

1 26 Baltimore Clint Sintim OLB43 Virginia P1 -11 Reach

1 27 Indianapolis Donald Brown RBF Connecticut P4Grab -3 Reach

1 28 Philadelphia Eben Britton OT Arizona P3 -7 Reach

1 29 NY Giants Percy Harvin WRF Florida P3 +9 Value

1 30 Tennessee Darrius Heyward-Bey WRF Maryland P2 +9 Value

1 31 Arizona Connor Barwin OLB34 Cincinnati P2 -11 Reach

1 32 Pittsburgh Darius Butler CB Connecticut P3 +1 Value

2 33 Buffalo Robert Ayers DE43 Tennessee P1 -10 Reach

2 34 New England Hakeem Nicks WRF North Carolina P4 +8 Value

2 35 St Louis William Beatty OT Connecticut P1 -5 Reach

2 36 Cleveland DJ Moore CB Vanderbilt P2 +2 Value

2 37 Seattle LeSean McCoy RBF Pittsburgh P3 +4 Value

2 38 Cincinnati Alex Mack OC California P2 +2 Value

2 39 Jacksonville Brian Robiskie WRF Ohio State P3Grab -6 Reach

2 40 Oakland Larry English OLB43 Northern Illinois P3O +8 Value

2 41 Green Bay Sean Smith CB Utah P2 -6 Reach

2 42 Buffalo Max Unger OG Oregon P2 +1 Value

2 43 San Francisco Evander Hood DE34 Missouri P3 +5 Value

2 44 Miami Ron Brace DT34 Boston College P2 -6 Reach

2 45 NY Giants Patrick Chung SS Oregon P3 -7 Reach

2 46 Houston Jairus Byrd CB Oregon P5 -2 Reach

2 47 New England Kenny Britt WRP Rutgers P4 +8 Value

2 48 Denver Louis Delmas FS Western Michigan P5 +2 Value

2 49 Chicago Michael Johnson DE43 Georgia Tech P2 +5 Value

2 50 Cleveland Darry Beckwith ILB LSU P3R -20 Reach

2 51 Dallas Eric Wood OC Louisville P3 +2 Value

2 52 NY Jets Coye Francies CB San Jose St P5 -5 Reach

2 53 Philadelphia Jared Cook TE South Carolina P2 +2 Value

2 54 Minnesota Phil Loadholt OT Oklahoma P2 -2 Reach

2 55 Atlanta James Casey TE Rice P3 -6 Reach

2 56 Miami Juaquin Iglesias WRF Oklahoma P3 +1 Value

2 57 Baltimore Louis Murphy WRF Florida P2 -9 Reach

2 58 New England Chase Coffman TE Missouri P5 -5 Reach

2 59 Carolina Paul Kruger DE43 Utah P3 +1 Value

2 60 NY Giants Jamon Meredith OT South Carolina P3 +1 Value

2 61 Indianapolis Marcus Freeman OLB43 Ohio State P2 -6 Reach

2 62 Tennessee Victor Harris CB Virginia Tech P2 -6 Reach

2 63 Arizona William Moore FS Missouri P3 +10 Value

2 64 Pittsburgh Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma P3 +10 Value

3 65 Detroit Herman Johnson OG LSU P3 +0 Value

3 66 St Louis Josh Freeman QB Kansas St P3O +37 Value

3 67 Kansas City Gerald McRath ILB Southern Miss P2 -22 Reach

3 68 Seattle Rashad Johnson FS Alabama P3 -7 Reach

3 69 Dallas Mike Mickens CB Cincinnati P3 -3 Reach

3 70 Cincinnati Rashad Jennings RBF Liberty P3 +10 Value

3 71 Oakland Mohamed Massaquoi WRF Georgia P3O -5 Reach

3 72 Jacksonville Shonn Greene RBF Iowa P3 +10 Value

3 73 Green Bay Shawn Nelson TE Southern Miss P4R +0 Value

3 74 San Francisco Andre Brown RBF North Carolina St P4 +10 Value

3 75 Buffalo Tyrone McKenzie OLB43 South Florida P2 -6 Reach

3 76 NY Jets Ramses Barden WRP Cal-Poly P2 -21 Reach

3 77 Houston Dannell Ellerbe ILB Georgia P3R -17 Reach

3 78 San Diego Jarron Gilbert DE34 San Jose St P4R +1 Value

3 79 Denver Dorell Scott DE34 Clemson P2 -8 Reach

3 80 Washington Fenuki Tupou OT Oregon P1 -20 Reach

3 81 Tampa Bay Asher Allen CB Georgia P3 +2 Value

3 82 Detroit Fili Moala DT43 USC P3 +13 Value

3 83 Green Bay Jonathan Luigs OC Arkansas P4R +5 Value

3 84 Chicago Sen'Derrick Marks DT43 Auburn P3O +13 Value

3 85 Philadelphia Chip Vaughn SS Wake Forest P2 -5 Reach

3 86 Minnesota Antoine Caldwell OC Alabama P3 -7 Reach

3 87 Miami Mitch King OLB34 Iowa P3 -9 Reach

3 88 Baltimore Captain Munnerlyn CB South Carolina P3O -3 Reach

3 89 New England Andy Levitre OG Oregon State P4R +6 Value

3 90 Atlanta Morgan Trent CB Michigan P3R -19 Reach

3 91 NY Giants Cody Brown OLB43 Connecticut P3 -8 Reach

3 92 Indianapolis Derrick Williams WRF Penn State P2 +10 Value

3 93 Carolina Ricky Jean-Francois DT43 LSU P3 -8 Reach

3 94 Tennessee Mike Thomas WRS Arizona P1 +6 Value

3 95 Arizona Javon Ringer RBF Michigan State P3 +10 Value

3 96 Pittsburgh Troy Kropog OT Tulane P3 -14 Reach

4 97 Dallas Kraig Urbik OG Wisconsin P3Grab -10 Reach

4 98 Kansas City Trevor Canfield OG Cincinnati P3 +0 Value

4 99 St Louis Jonathan Casillas OLB43 Wisconsin P2 -3 Reach

4 100 Cleveland Xavier Fulton OG Illinois P3 -13 Reach

4 101 Seattle Jarett Dillard WRF Rice P3 -5 Reach

4 102 Cincinnati Cedric Peerman RBC Virginia P3 -9 Reach

4 103 Jacksonville Nic Harris OLB43 Oklahoma P3 -1 Reach

4 104 Oakland Gerald Cadogan OT Penn State P2 -12 Reach

4 105 Green Bay Darcel McBath FS Texas Tech P4 +19 Value

4 106 Buffalo Alex Magee DT43 Purdue P3 -17 Reach

4 107 San Francisco Nate Davis QB Ball State P3 +27 Value

4 108 Houston Michael Hamlin SS Clemson P3 +3 Value

4 109 San Diego Terrance Taylor DT34 Michigan P1R -43 Reach

4 110 Denver Brandon Tate WRF North Carolina P3 -5 Reach

4 111 NY Jets Austin Collie WRF BYU P4R -7 Reach

4 112 New Orleans Derek Pegues FS Mississippi St P2 +9 Value

4 113 Dallas David Bruton FS Notre Dame P3 +5 Value

4 114 New Orleans Zack Follett OLB43 California P2 -10 Reach

4 115 Chicago Augustus Parrish OT Kent State P2 -11 Reach

4 116 Tampa Bay Rhett Bomar QB Sam Houston St P3 +21 Value

4 117 Philadelphia Sherrod Martin FS Troy P3 -3 Reach

4 118 Houston Jason Watkins OT Florida P3 -12 Reach

4 119 Baltimore Travis Beckum TE Wisconsin P3O +35 Value

4 120 New England A.Q. Shipley OC Penn State P3R -31 Reach

4 121 Atlanta Alex Boone OT Ohio State P3T -49 Reach

4 122 Miami Cornelius Ingram TE Florida P3 +30 Value

4 123 Indianapolis Patrick Turner WRP USC P2 -9 Reach

4 124 Carolina Keenan Lewis CB Oregon St P3 +12 Value

4 125 NY Giants Ryan Purvis TE Boston College P3 +0 Value

4 126 Tennessee Vance Walker DT43 Georgia Tech P2 -28 Reach

4 127 Arizona Jaimie Thomas OG Maryland P3 -17 Reach

4 128 Pittsburgh Stephen McGee QB Texas A&M P3 +6 Value

[murra]

Any way you can snag a guard, tight end, and defensive end in the top 45 picks is obviously a complete success. I have a feeling that the Bills may have to trade down to get this done as the talent at pick number 11 is looking like it might not be worth it.

[Glass To The Arson]

I would do it in a heartbeat

[Astrobot]

I must underscore that I didn't go to Detroit, Detroit came to us, stated what they wanted (the best LB and a Top 5 LT, if Andre Smith qualifies any more), and I agreed. He said to talk to Brandon and convince him to pull this trade LOL.

Astro

[Coach Tuesday]

You rock bro. That just might happen.

[Ramius]

If Detroit called today and offered the 20 and 33 for our #11, Russ better ink that deal before the lions can think twice.

[Virgil]

First off, let me just say that I love the trade and the pics we'd get. Especially if the people picked before 11 are as shown. However, at 20 I would have to take Maybin. With the second, I take Alex Mack, who is also still there. And the 3rd pick is used on Ayers, who should still be there according to the value chart. Then, with the 4th, I take Travis Beckum. Go ahead and take the other DT with the final pick.

 

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't hate the first scenario, but I like this other option better.

[Astrobot]

If Detroit called today and offered the 20 and 33 for our #11, Russ better ink that deal before the Lions can think twice.

If they use the Pick Value Chart, they would realize they could even get the #9 pick instead of our #11. It is possible that he's already checked with GBay and SanFran and they don't want to do it.

 

Astrobot, Bills Correspondent

www.DraftTek.com

[murra]

On second thought...is anyone else sick and tired of these second to third round DE's who show little marginal talent and progress slowly or not at all but remain on our roster for what feels like decades?

[Steely Dan]

Sounds good and I'd do it. How about the Bills 1st and 3rd for the Eagles two firsts?

[Alphadawg7]

I dont see Detroit doing this...they have too many holes, and already have 2 first round picks...with all their holes, I think they stand pat and grab as many players as they can

[The Dean]

If I had to quibble, I think Ayers is long gone, by #33.

[billybob]

Yeah our 11th for Detroits 20 and 33 then trade Peters for Philly's 21, 28 and their 3rd so we have - 20, 21, 28, 33, 42, 75, 85,

[JoeCribbsCarWash]

See also my signature for the last month.

[Coach Tuesday]

Hey Astro, you've got me thinking. Isn't it more likely that the Lions go safe at 1 and take Curry or Monroe, and then do the deal with us to get Sanchez or Moreno? Oh this would be SWEET.... This draft is all about the second round. Great value relative to contract price.

[cåblelady]

Astrobot ROCKS!

[Albany,n.y.]

I hope all you people excited at the prospect of the trade realize that the friend who e-mailed Astrobot is not Martin Mayhew & Mayhew & the Lions may not be thinking the same as one of their fans is. Also, if Stafford ever fell to pick 8, I'd be shocked. The 1st QB in the draft hasn't been 8th or below since the 2000 draft when Chad Pennington was the 1st QB at pick 18.

[Nightcrawler]

Yeah our 11th for Detroits 20 and 33 then trade Peters for Philly's 21, 28 and their 3rd so we have - 20, 21, 28, 33, 42, 75, 85,

 

The Detroit deal works. But, trust me, Philly is not so desperate for a LT that they would give up two first round picks and a third round pick. If we were foolish enough to get rid of Peters, then, maybe, Philly gives us a 1st and 3rd. No way they would give up 3 of their first 4 picks in this year's draft.

[The Rev.Mattb74 ESQ.]

If I had to quibble, I think Ayers is long gone, by #33.

NFL network yesterday on Path to the Draft had their updated mock and Ayers going in the top ten overall.

[marauderswr80]

hey a mock I finally like......