Steve In Atlanta 2008 Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Trent Edwards arm strength has come into question over and over on this board so in an effort to put this to bed i'd like to show the facts... Top 5 Results: Ball Speed (Group 1) 1. Troy Smith Ohio St. 58.5 2. Jeff Rowe Nevada 57 3. Drew Stanton Michigan St. 55.7 4. Jared Zabransky Boise St. 55.2 5. Paul Thompson Oklahoma 54.8 Top 5 Results: Ball Speed (Group 2) 1. Toby Korrodi Central Missouri St. 63 2. John Beck Brigham Young 61.1 3. Kevin Kolb Houston 55.3 4. Trent Edwards Stanford 55.2 5. James Pinkey East Carolina 53.9
silvermike Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Were there any good QBs being measured at this point besides Edwards? Were Brady Quinn or JaMarcus Russell in either of these groups?
AlbanyBill Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Trent Edwards arm strength has come into question over and over on this board so in an effort to put this to bed i'd like to show the facts... Top 5 Results: Ball Speed (Group 1) 1. Troy Smith Ohio St. 58.5 2. Jeff Rowe Nevada 57 3. Drew Stanton Michigan St. 55.7 4. Jared Zabransky Boise St. 55.2 5. Paul Thompson Oklahoma 54.8 Top 5 Results: Ball Speed (Group 2) 1. Toby Korrodi Central Missouri St. 63 2. John Beck Brigham Young 61.1 3. Kevin Kolb Houston 55.3 4. Trent Edwards Stanford 55.2 5. James Pinkey East Carolina 53.9 Is this from the Rookie Combine? Also, I haven't heard too much talk of his arm strength for some time actually...
Steve In Atlanta 2008 Posted March 11, 2009 Author Posted March 11, 2009 Is this from the Rookie Combine? Also, I haven't heard too much talk of his arm strength for some time actually... I couldnt find others stats however id like to see them also. I was basing this post on all those worried about TE getting the ball to TO and Evans.. Obviously Trent is on the low end but I think its just fine..
Beerball Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Trent Edwards arm strength has come into question over and over on this board so in an effort to put this to bed i'd like to show the facts... Top 5 Results: Ball Speed (Group 1) 1. Troy Smith Ohio St. 58.5 2. Jeff Rowe Nevada 57 3. Drew Stanton Michigan St. 55.7 4. Jared Zabransky Boise St. 55.2 5. Paul Thompson Oklahoma 54.8 Top 5 Results: Ball Speed (Group 2) 1. Toby Korrodi Central Missouri St. 63 2. John Beck Brigham Young 61.1 3. Kevin Kolb Houston 55.3 4. Trent Edwards Stanford 55.2 5. James Pinkey East Carolina 53.9 Very nice find! Edwards > Pinkey
The Senator Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Very nice find! Edwards > Pinkey glad we "put that to bed"
Wraith Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Trent Edwards arm strength has come into question over and over on this board so in an effort to put this to bed i'd like to show the facts... Top 5 Results: Ball Speed (Group 1) 1. Troy Smith Ohio St. 58.5 2. Jeff Rowe Nevada 57 3. Drew Stanton Michigan St. 55.7 4. Jared Zabransky Boise St. 55.2 5. Paul Thompson Oklahoma 54.8 Top 5 Results: Ball Speed (Group 2) 1. Toby Korrodi Central Missouri St. 63 2. John Beck Brigham Young 61.1 3. Kevin Kolb Houston 55.3 4. Trent Edwards Stanford 55.2 5. James Pinkey East Carolina 53.9 This isn't what I would call a convincing argument. There isn't an NFL starter (or even a good NFL back-up) on those lists. How many people were in each group? Six? What was the average speed? You need a better context for the data. The context right now says Edwards has a slightly stronger arm than some guy named Paul Thompson and slightly weaker arm than Drew Stanton. Great.
Alphadawg7 Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Is this from the Rookie Combine? Also, I haven't heard too much talk of his arm strength for some time actually... I think he is referring to the Cutler comparisons as to when Trent's arm strength comes up... I would bet Cutler is near 65+
Beerball Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 I think he is referring to the Cutler comparisons as to when Trent's arm strength comes up... I would bet Cutler is near 65+ I thought it had to do with the fact that Edwards can't throw in "weather".
AlbanyBill Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 I think he is referring to the Cutler comparisons as to when Trent's arm strength comes up... I would bet Cutler is near 65+ I would be interested to see Cutler's stats...I'm going to do a google search right now...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 I would be interested to see Cutler's stats...I'm going to do a google search right now... I did a quick search, but didnt find anything...I find a list of QB's that attended the combine that year, but didnt see him on the list...so this stat may not exist for him...
AlbanyBill Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 http://www.beachthe.net/category/general/n...06-nfl-combine/ Jay cutler was at 60 at 06 combine...
Steve In Atlanta 2008 Posted March 11, 2009 Author Posted March 11, 2009 I think he is referring to the Cutler comparisons as to when Trent's arm strength comes up... I would bet Cutler is near 65+ Heres 2007... BALL SPEED MPH Ingle Martin 61 Jay Cutler 60 Brodie Croyle 58 Tavaris Jackson 57 Bruce Eugene 55 Cutler 60 MPH
Captain Quint Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Looks like we should have drafted Korrodi instead He's #1. On a side note, I'm pretty disappointed in Group 1's effort. Group 2 really brought it today. Thanks for posting this 3 year old piece of non-linked garbage. Real helpful in putting this debate to bed.
AlbanyBill Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Looks like we should have drafted Korrodi instead He's #1. On a side note, I'm pretty disappointed in Group 1's effort. Group 2 really brought it today. Thanks for posting this 3 year old piece of non-linked garbage. Real helpful in putting this debate to bed. ouch... Don't pull any punches... haha
Poeticlaw Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Is this from the Rookie Combine? Also, I haven't heard too much talk of his arm strength for some time actually... So out of 10 guys he tied for 7th what does that tell you?
Poeticlaw Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Looks like we should have drafted Korrodi instead He's #1. On a side note, I'm pretty disappointed in Group 1's effort. Group 2 really brought it today. Thanks for posting this 3 year old piece of non-linked garbage. Real helpful in putting this debate to bed. http://walterfootball.com/draft2007QB.php A link I could fine and the site said he threw the worse pass he ever saw.
Magox Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 So out of 10 guys he tied for 7th what does that tell you? Nothing. J.P losman probably would of been in the top 3 Chad Pennington would be at the bottom 1. Absolutely Nothing!
Magox Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 http://walterfootball.com/draft2007QB.php A link I could fine and the site said he threw the worse pass he ever saw. Hey genius lets see what else he said about the others that they walterfootball liked. lets take a look, btw these are the only other ones they commented on Drew Stanton Michigan State 6-3 226 55.7 Threw extremely well and stood out as the top QB at the Combine. Troy Smith Ohio State 6-0 225 58.5 Didn't run; on banquet circuit. Great five-step out passes. Chris Leak Florida 5-11 209 -- Threw some great deep balls. Ran 4.75 40. May have moved into third round. Toby Korrodi Central Missouri 6-3 234 63 Fastest ball speed at Combine; definitely got noticed. Zac Taylor Nebraska 6-2 216 -- Solid out throws. Yup, very successful careers
BillsFan Trapped in Pats Land Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 http://walterfootball.com/draft2007QB.php A link I could fine and the site said he threw the worse pass he ever saw. Arm strength has very little to do with the modern QB. The ability to read coverages and release the ball quickly are what are more important. To the best of my knowledge, no one has found a way to measure that at the combine.
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