PromoTheRobot Posted March 9, 2009 Posted March 9, 2009 They all played at small D1-AA or D-2 schools. Owens at UT-Chattanooga, Reed at Kutztown State, Rice at Mississippi Valley State. So the question I have is why when people look at the draft for WRs, why aren't small school players ever discussed? PTR
The Jokeman Posted March 9, 2009 Posted March 9, 2009 They all played at small D1-AA or D-2 schools. Owens at UT-Chattanooga, Reed at Kutztown State, Rice at Mississippi Valley State. So the question I have is why when people look at the draft for WRs, why aren't small school players ever discussed? PTR Also Randy Moss began his collegiate career at Division 1 AA until Marshall turned into a 1A program his sophomore season. In terms of looking at small school players it's all a matter of the level of competition. You start to wonder if the player be as good with a bigger school program. Ie big fish in small pond or small fish in big pond.
lets_go_bills Posted March 9, 2009 Posted March 9, 2009 They all played at small D1-AA or D-2 schools. Owens at UT-Chattanooga, Reed at Kutztown State, Rice at Mississippi Valley State. So the question I have is why when people look at the draft for WRs, why aren't small school players ever discussed? PTR They're all gonna wind up in the Hall of Fame too.
lets_go_bills Posted March 9, 2009 Posted March 9, 2009 Also Randy Moss began his collegiate career at Division 1 AA until Marshall turned into a 1A program his sophomore season.In terms of looking at small school players it's all a matter of the level of competition. You start to wonder if the player be as good with a bigger school program. Ie big fish in small pond or small fish in big pond. Moss' situation was a little different: he was off to Notre Dame until they saw what a douche he was, then he went to Florida State, same deal there, then he wound up at Marshall. lol.
Astrobot Posted March 9, 2009 Posted March 9, 2009 They all played at small D1-AA or D-2 schools. Owens at UT-Chattanooga, Reed at Kutztown State, Rice at Mississippi Valley State. So the question I have is why when people look at the draft for WRs, why aren't small school players ever discussed? PTR Here's one who'll be this year's D1-AA success:Ramses Barden. He's 6'6" 227 pounds (think Plaxico Burress size). 67 receptions, 1,257 yds, 18 TD's. He'd be value in RD#3. From ESPN.com: "Ramses Barden rising quickly||Barden is shooting up draft boards thanks to his size (6-foot-6, 220 pounds) and athleticism. While he doesn't have elite top-end speed Ramses does have impressive body control and soft hands. He dominated FCS competition this season, catching a touchdown once in every four receptions, and he showed against Wisconsin (6 rec., 83 yds., 1 TD) that he can hold his own against top competition. Ramses figures to come off the board early on Day 2 but could go as early as the late second round."
The Jokeman Posted March 9, 2009 Posted March 9, 2009 Here's one who'll be this year's D1-AA success:Ramses Barden. He's 6'6" 227 pounds (think Plaxico Burress size). 67 receptions, 1,257 yds, 18 TD's. He'd be value in RD#3. From ESPN.com: "Ramses Barden rising quickly||Barden is shooting up draft boards thanks to his size (6-foot-6, 220 pounds) and athleticism. While he doesn't have elite top-end speed Ramses does have impressive body control and soft hands. He dominated FCS competition this season, catching a touchdown once in every four receptions, and he showed against Wisconsin (6 rec., 83 yds., 1 TD) that he can hold his own against top competition. Ramses figures to come off the board early on Day 2 but could go as early as the late second round." His 4.61 is going to force him down draft boards and they've been questions about his ability to beat jam coverage. I suspect he'll be at the earliest a Round 4 pick but could go lower.
Big Turk Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 His 4.61 is going to force him down draft boards and they've been questions about his ability to beat jam coverage. I suspect he'll be at the earliest a Round 4 pick but could go lower. right...he is gonna jammed up by guys that are 7-8 inches shorter and 35 pounds lighter than he is.... The guy should be manhandling those shorter players at the line if they try and jam him, ala Owens...
BuffaloBill Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Maybe because so few really have the physical skills to make it in the NFL.
JJBuffalo Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 His 4.61 is going to force him down draft boards and they've been questions about his ability to beat jam coverage. I suspect he'll be at the earliest a Round 4 pick but could go lower. Don't quote me but it wouldnt surprise me if Plax and Brandon Marshall are similar possibly even slower than a 4.61. A 4.61 is very fast for a guy 6'6 and 220+.
The Big Cat Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Don't quote me but it wouldnt surprise me if Plax and Brandon Marshall are similar possibly even slower than a 4.61. A 4.61 is very fast for a guy 6'6 and 220+. What did Hardy go?
The Big Cat Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 But too bad he runs routes like Frankenstein True, true. I was really surprised by his speed during the one game I saw in person.
Leonidas Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 They all played at small D1-AA or D-2 schools. Owens at UT-Chattanooga, Reed at Kutztown State, Rice at Mississippi Valley State. So the question I have is why when people look at the draft for WRs, why aren't small school players ever discussed? PTR Have you ever watched the draft? These things are discussed all the time. right...he is gonna jammed up by guys that are 7-8 inches shorter and 35 pounds lighter than he is....The guy should be manhandling those shorter players at the line if they try and jam him, ala Owens... You mean like 6'5" 212 lbs. James Hardy who also...can't get off a jam??
PastaJoe Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 I thought the answer was going to be that they all played too long and ended their careers with a wimper on teams that they're not remembered for. Rice - Oakland Reed - Washington Owens - Buffalo?
Leonidas Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Actually, Rice technically ended his career in Seattle. He had agreement to go to Denver for one more season but would have been 4th on the depth chart and decided to retire instead.
K-9 Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 They've all had HOF QBs giving them the ball. GO BILLS!!!
KD in CA Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Who are three people who have never been in my kitchen? Also, those guys along with Moss, Irvin, Burress, etc. are/were big, physical receivers. Then tend to have a lot more success than the guys who are 5' 10", 180.
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