3rd Annual Draft Game: TRADEDOWN, ROUND 1, CONT'D

[Astrobot]

So far in our Annual TSW Draft Game the Bills traded down, grabbing Philly's two first rounders in exchange for their 1st and 3rd rounders.

 

The Bills have selected Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB with the 21st pick. 45% of the Wallers picked Maybin.

Here are the picks up to our next pick:

 

Round Pick Team Selection Psn School

1 1 Detroit Andre Smith OT Alabama

1 2 St Louis Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech

1 3 Kansas City Aaron Curry OLB Wake Forest

1 4 Seattle Eugene Monroe OT Virginia

1 5 Cleveland Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State

1 6 Cincinnati Michael Oher OT Mississippi

1 7 Oakland Everette Brown DE Florida State

1 8 Jacksonville Jason Smith OT Baylor

1 9 Green Bay BJ Raji DT Boston College

1 10 San Francisco Brian Orakpo DE Texas

1 11 Philadelphia Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia

1 12 Denver Rey Maualuga ILB USC

1 13 Washington Brian Cushing OLB USC

1 14 New Orleans Peria Jerry DT Mississippi

1 15 Houston Matthew Stafford QB Georgia

1 16 San Diego DJ Moore CB Vanderbilt

1 17 NY Jets James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio State

1 18 Chicago Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri

1 19 Tampa Bay Percy Harvin WR Florida

1 20 Detroit Mark Sanchez QB USC

1 21 Buffalo Aaron Maybin OLB Penn State

1 22 Minnesota Eben Britton OT Arizona

1 23 New England Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St

1 24 Atlanta Vontae Davis CB Illinois

1 25 Miami Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest

1 26 Baltimore Tyson Jackson DE LSU

1 27 Indianapolis Chris Wells RB Ohio State

[Bill from NYC]

Why not toss in Coffman and the top rated OG? Just askin'.

[Astrobot]

I'm going off our Big Board. We have Coffman and Duke Robinson going in RD#2. Stay Tuned.

[Tortured Soul]

Where's the next TE?

[Bill from NYC]

I'm going off our Big Board. We have Coffman and Duke Robinson going in RD#2. Stay Tuned.

 

I hear ya, and thanks so much for your yearly draft contribution to this board. It is huge, and thanks for taking the time.

 

I suppose I am in a very small minority, but I think that Coffman and Robinson will not make it out of round 1. We shall see.

[Astrobot]

So far it's Michael Johnson, Alex Mack, and Larry English.

 

The Pros for Johnson are that you take care of your #1 problem at LDE--pressure on the quarterback. Johnson is over 6'6", 255, with frame to add weight. He's the tallest, among the heaviest, and pound for pound one of the fastest. He's athletic, and does what we ask DE's to do in Buffalo.

 

The Cons for Johnson are that he has not been a sack specialist like Orakpo or Maybin, we have already taken Maybin in the first round, and he's essentially untested at OLB (where some scouts see him playing next). Moreover, we have to keep remind ourselves that Ralph Wilson wants playmakers.

 

Alex Mack has been rated by many as the best OL in football, not just the draft. If he's still here by this pick, I'll be surprised--but he is in this game because our simulator picks based on team needs, so he falls to #28. Mack has great lower body strength, intelligence, "pocket awareness", and would be a countermeasure against the big nose tackles s in our division.

 

The Cons for Mack is that it's not a playmaker, not a glamour pick, but a solid addition to the line, providing Edwards time to find Evans-Owens-Tight End.

 

Larry English is an interesting 3rd place selection. He's a tweener, likely more suited for the 3-4, but "relentless". He could be a Dwight Freeney type, with a quick first step toward the passer, good strength off the edge, great closing speed. With Maybin and English, we would have two of the fastest DE/OLB's in the draft. However, English will, IMHO, lack the size against the run and coverage skills against the pass.

[Thurman#1]

So far it's Michael Johnson, Alex Mack, and Larry English.

 

The Pros for Johnson are that you take care of your #1 problem at LDE--pressure on the quarterback. Johnson is over 6'6", 255, with frame to add weight. He's the tallest, among the heaviest, and pound for pound one of the fastest. He's athletic, and does what we ask DE's to do in Buffalo.

 

The Cons for Johnson are that he has not been a sack specialist like Orakpo or Maybin, we have already taken Maybin in the first round, and he's essentially untested at OLB (where some scouts see him playing next). Moreover, we have to keep remind ourselves that Ralph Wilson wants playmakers.

 

Alex Mack has been rated by many as the best OL in football, not just the draft. If he's still here by this pick, I'll be surprised--but he is in this game because our simulator picks based on team needs, so he falls to #28. Mack has great lower body strength, intelligence, "pocket awareness", and would be a countermeasure against the big nose tackles s in our division.

 

The Cons for Mack is that it's not a playmaker, not a glamour pick, but a solid addition to the line, providing Edwards time to find Evans-Owens-Tight End.

 

Larry English is an interesting 3rd place selection. He's a tweener, likely more suited for the 3-4, but "relentless". He could be a Dwight Freeney type, with a quick first step toward the passer, good strength off the edge, great closing speed. With Maybin and English, we would have two of the fastest DE/OLB's in the draft. However, English will, IMHO, lack the size against the run and coverage skills against the pass.

 

 

 

Nice summary. Thoughtful.

 

I'd say that since we already picked Maybin, we wouldn't go DE again, so out of the people you listed, I'd say Mack. I'm sure that in this case, the Bills would have been desperately hoping that Pettigrew would fall, but when he didn't, they'd be looking at center, safety, DT and and OLB (though I suspect we'll fix that in FA).

 

The other alternative is if they really want Hangartner at center, they might go guard even if it's a reach.

 

EDIT: Oh, I hadn't even noticed your second trade scenario. Hmm. Very interesting.

[Astrobot]

Nice summary. Thoughtful.

 

I'd say that since we already picked Maybin, we wouldn't go DE again, so out of the people you listed, I'd say Mack. I'm sure that in this case, the Bills would have been desperately hoping that Pettigrew would fall, but when he didn't, they'd be looking at center, safety, DT and and OLB (though I suspect we'll fix that in FA).

 

The other alternative is if they really want Hangartner at center, they might go guard even if it's a reach.

 

EDIT: Oh, I hadn't even noticed your second trade scenario. Hmm. Very interesting.

 

Good points. Notice that when the Bills picked Maybin, Pettigrew was off the board to New England 1 selection later. Makes one think that, if they wanted English, they'd pick Pettigrew at #21 in this scenario. Having picked Maybin already (a better, more versatile pick than English), maybe we'd just pick Mack OR trade down (picking perhaps Eric Wood or Jon Luigs at OC plus a TE like Coffman or James Casey.

[ans4e64]

Oh my God.

 

How can people honestly vote for Michael Johnson? What a disaster.

[Astrobot]

Oh my God.

 

How can people honestly vote for Michael Johnson? What a disaster.

In fourth grade, did you get red marks on your papers saying "Please Explain"?

[ans4e64]

In fourth grade, did you get red marks on your papers saying "Please Explain"?

 

If you said you'd rather have Jared Allen on your team over Mike Mamula, would you feel it was necessary to explain why?

[Astrobot]

It's a dead heat between Alex Mack and Michael Johnson. We'll give people one more hour to vote, and then move to Round 2.