stinky finger Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Hard to say because each situation is different. They did pay Evans and Stroud in the past 2 years. Right, because a DT on the the other side and a WR is more important than an "in his prime" LT. Quite simply, this organization is clueless when it comes to putting together a winning team. Protect your QB and get to the opposing QB. Simple as that. Wanna guess the two weakest units are right now on the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Tim, Any notions on what the conditional 2010 draft pick is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimGraham Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Tim, Any notions on what the conditional 2010 draft pick is? Sixth rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Sixth rounder Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Sixth rounder Any word on the conditions of the pick? How high can it go and what are the incentives? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimGraham Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Any word on the conditions of the pick? How high can it go and what are the incentives? Thanks. Not sure, and it might not be conditional at all anymore. That pick still was being haggled over when the story broke this afternoon. The 28th and the fourth were certain, but the extra 2010 pick was a little up in the air. It might have settled in at a sixth rounder without conditions. I'm still trying to get that confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Not sure, and it might not be conditional at all anymore. That pick still was being haggled over when the story broke this afternoon. The 28th and the fourth were certain, but the extra 2010 pick was a little up in the air. It might have settled in at a sixth rounder without conditions. I'm still trying to get that confirmed. Moo-chose Gracias!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Tim was there another inquiry about Peters or was Philly it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Right, because a DT on the the other side and a WR is more important than an "in his prime" LT. Quite simply, this organization is clueless when it comes to putting together a winning team. Protect your QB and get to the opposing QB. Simple as that. Wanna guess the two weakest units are right now on the Bills? I did say each situation is different. I did not say I agreed with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifestoshort Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Right, because a DT on the the other side and a WR is more important than an "in his prime" LT. Quite simply, this organization is clueless when it comes to putting together a winning team. Protect your QB and get to the opposing QB. Simple as that. Wanna guess the two weakest units are right now on the Bills? They didn't lose Peters because they didn't identify the position as more important then a dt or wr. They let him go because of how he was conducting his efforts to re do a contract..because he was pricing himself as one of the top 3 lt. Stroud and Evans were asking for money at the appropriate values, and in a positive fashion... How Peters conducted himself on the field (or lack thereof) and in the negotiating room is why he is in Philly...not be OBD can't determine the importance of a LT.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 How Peters conducted himself on the field (or lack thereof) and in the negotiating room is why he is in Philly...not be OBD can't determine the importance of a LT.... It takes two to tango. I seem to recall the FO puffing out their collective chest in front of the media and announcing that they weren't going to negotiate at all with Peters until he came in to camp and went to work like any other replaceable part on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Not sure, and it might not be conditional at all anymore. That pick still was being haggled over when the story broke this afternoon. The 28th and the fourth were certain, but the extra 2010 pick was a little up in the air. It might have settled in at a sixth rounder without conditions. I'm still trying to get that confirmed. 4:17 AM? Do you ever sleep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I'd just like to say that, Tim, you rock! It's truly a priviledge to get your input and "insider" info like this. Thanks for all! Ya know what's really odd... we all just believe what you say and I don't even know what kind of car you drive. That, in and of itself, says something. Not sure what, but something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 It takes two to tango. I seem to recall the FO puffing out their collective chest in front of the media and announcing that they weren't going to negotiate at all with Peters until he came in to camp and went to work like any other replaceable part on the team. Right Sisyphean. Like every "replaceable part" on the team, you should show up to work. Most here know that I am far from sold on Trent Edwards, but the guy is unquestionably the starting Qb for the Buffalo Bills. He is not paid like one. He has just as much room to gripe as Peters, IMO. Lee Evans had more room. Marcus Stroud felt he deserved a little more. These other players, show up and do their job. How dare the Bills expect the almighty Jason Peters to follow suit and act like the other "replaceable parts". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenews Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 What are the salary cap implications of trading Jason Peters. The Bills gain salary cap room but lose some room with accelerated bonus hit. What the breakdown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Right Sisyphean. Like every "replaceable part" on the team, you should show up to work. Most here know that I am far from sold on Trent Edwards, but the guy is unquestionably the starting Qb for the Buffalo Bills. He is not paid like one. He has just as much room to gripe as Peters, IMO. Lee Evans had more room. Marcus Stroud felt he deserved a little more. These other players, show up and do their job. How dare the Bills expect the almighty Jason Peters to follow suit and act like the other "replaceable parts". You don't reward any player who doesn't act like making your team a winner is their goal. Why do you even want a player like that on your team? They could be the greatest ever but if they don't care about the team or their teammates what good are they? Blowing off training camp, showing up fat and out of shape, and then quitting on the team with two games left is the ultimate show of disrespect. You'd have to be an idiot to give that kind of player a mega-salary. Maybe Peters fly right with Philly but he was done with the Bills. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Right Sisyphean. Like every "replaceable part" on the team, you should show up to work. Most here know that I am far from sold on Trent Edwards, but the guy is unquestionably the starting Qb for the Buffalo Bills. He is not paid like one. He has just as much room to gripe as Peters, IMO. Lee Evans had more room. Marcus Stroud felt he deserved a little more. These other players, show up and do their job. How dare the Bills expect the almighty Jason Peters to follow suit and act like the other "replaceable parts". I've said it a few times before on record that I think Parker/Peters mishandled the situation. It was two goats digging in their heels and butting heads... It doesn't mean one goat is smarter than the other. Although, Peters did get out of Buffalo, which I think was his mindset after Brandon and Parker accused each other of not being able to dial the other's phone number for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Tim, There's a rumor on a website called profootballcentral.com that says the Bills are trying to trade for DT John Henderson. Naturally, this has many Bills fans excited and giddy over the thought of reuniting Stroud with his old linemate. Here's the link to the TSW thread: http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showtopic=87178 Can you comment on this? I know John Clayton said the Bills weren't done dealing, so maybe this is something being seriously explored by the Bills and Jags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Tim, There's a rumor on a website called profootballcentral.com that says the Bills are trying to trade for DT John Henderson. Naturally, this has many Bills fans excited and giddy over the thought of reuniting Stroud with his old linemate. Here's the link to the TSW thread: http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showtopic=87178 Can you comment on this? I know John Clayton said the Bills weren't done dealing, so maybe this is something being seriously explored by the Bills and Jags. great question! Tim, I think a lot of us would like to know more about this, if there is any validity to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimGraham Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Tim was there another inquiry about Peters or was Philly it? I was told there were as many as three other teams interested to varying degrees. But the only other team I know of was the one I reported yesterday: the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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