keepthefaith Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Yay! another Ivy leaguer just lick Jauron Exactly, and a guy who likes to throw the short safe throws. A very prudent move by the Bills. Just remember that "prude" is the root word in prudent. I'm sure Jauron had him near the top of his list.
Sisyphean Bills Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Since we addressed the only position that matters ... SUPER BOWL!
Mark Vader Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Ok, so we signed someone to be our 2nd string QB. Why is everyone up in arms? We already knew Losman was out. We filled a need and got a good enough player to fill the role. So what if Scout has him ranked at #20. We signed him to be a backup, of course his ranking will be low. This is just the 1st day of FA and there are plenty of players out there. Relax.
DCbillsfan Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Ok, so we signed someone to be our 2nd string QB. Why is everyone up in arms? We already knew Losman was out. We filled a need and got a good enough player to fill the role.So what if Scout has him ranked at #20. We signed him to be a backup, of course his ranking will be low. This is just the 1st day of FA and there are plenty of players out there. Relax. Everyone is in arms because whether you like Trent or not - the guy tends to get hurt. Plus I was hoping that they would bring in a guy who is proven and could be a mentor to Trent. Someone like Garcia, Batch, Brad Johnson, maybe even Leftwich.
dickie do-right Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Fitzpatrick (6’2” 225) started 12 games completing better than 59 percent of his passes. He threw for over 1,900 yards with eight touchdowns and nine interceptions and a passer rating of 70 for a very poor team.
LancasterSteve Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 As I posted on the main board just a clone of Trent, dink and dunk from the Z Report with Lance Zierlein: http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/ Our newest clone QB: Ryan Fitzpatrick, QB, Bengals: Fitzpatrick finished the last eight games of the year with a 4-4 record and 6 TDs with 4 INTs. He's a much better scrambler than I expected but he never really looked down the field much which could hurt his chances with the Texans. Fitzpatrick had a 59% completion percentage, but he also relied on too many check-downs and short passes. Still, he's young and should be fairly inexpensive. And he is inexpensive which should make Ralph Wilson really happy after Levy gave away the bank to two duds in Royal and Dockery. I just hope as Ice used to say "the A$$clowns"we will be signing better have warmer bodies than the two stiffs the Bills just cut. A ruderless ship will eventually hit the shoals and sink. That's the Bills today. NO GM and no one can say with certainty who is in charge- I asked all three of the Canadians running the ticket office and none of them knew...sad. Place used to be packed with people working at OBD and I knew many of them. Ran into one guy I knew from years past and he comfirmed what I had heard elsewhere that Wilson's daughter, Linda Bogdan (a VP) is going to have a greater say in the draft and is still in charge of evaluating O-linemen. It might have been my imagination but I could have sworn the I noticed him giving a thumbs down sign when he said this. Another thing the place was like a morgue; no chatter, no laughing or even arguing. This must be the new "don't disagree with anyone group" I used to be there so often it was like a second home but the blank zombie like stares got me to thinking that the "Real OBD" is floating around in space and that the Twilite Zone has taken the present TBD into the fifth dimension. Not kidding, I had a really wierd feeling after I left the building.Maybe it was the hot Chocolate
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 What a signing! A guy who throws less down the field than the guy we have ! Man, he must have been very high on all the NFL teams lists. Typical Bills choice.
May Day 10 Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 There better be something else.... something much more else..... But really. If this is their answer to the backup QB (history shows they likely will be asked to win a few games), this is the cheapest way to fill that role.
Steely Dan Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Didn't he actually play decently for the Bungles? Yes. I mean, you have to like what they say on on bb.com: "Fitzpatrick (6’2” 225) started 12 games completing better than 59 percent of his passes. He threw for over 1,900 yards with eight touchdowns and nine interceptions and a passer rating of 70. The Harvard product played his first two NFL seasons with St. Louis. “There comes a point where you can’t really improve or grow unless you’re on the field and last year was a big step for me in terms of getting those 12 starts,” said Fitzpatrick. Buffalo made no secret that they wanted to add a veteran quarterback as a backup to Trent Edwards, that understands his role. The coaching staff is hopeful that a veteran can help to mentor Edwards on the finer points of the game as he continues to develop. “I think it’s helped me a lot in my career to play behind Marc Bulger and Carson Palmer,” said Fitzpatrick. “I’ve been able to see how they approach the game, and in doing that I’ve been able to help them out. I think that’s what I’m going to bring here. Trent is still a young guy and I’m going to help him out with his preparation. I’m going to be his eyes when he’s on the field and I’m looking forward to that relationship.” Fitzpatrick is considered a superior student of the game with good character marks all the way around. " Shhhh, that will only P.O. the negative Nellies. Common sense has very little place here. I think this is a good move. He's not coming in to be the starter, just come in when (unfortunately not if) Edwards gets hurt. He'll do a decent job and will be more competent on the field than JP was last year. Now the Bills FO can focus on filling other gaps. Shhhh, that will only P.O. the negative Nellies. Common sense has very little place here. Um, no we weren't. JP is a dumb meathead jock who can't do anything productive once his #1 WR is covered on the deep route. Essentially, JP = a more durable RJ. Fitzpatrick doesn't have JP's physical skills, but should more than make up for it with a brain fit for a modern NFL QB. Someone who can sustain drives and keep our defense from having to be on the field for 3/4 of the game. Who the eff cares about his avg. per pass? If the guy can get to the red zone and punch it in then he's better than JP. Short pass drives give the defense more time to rest. This guy is a MUCH better answer than JP. You guys would be whining no matter what, I actually like this signing. One less thing we have to worry about. A good signing and a quality 2nd QB. Smart, understands offenses and defenses and will fill his duty well. It is an upgrade as he is better than JP and will be a solid 2nd QB........he is not going to win you a SB but can go in and win a handful of games for you. Or at least have the common sense to throw a ball away before the 2 minute warning instead of taking a sack and fumbling. Shhhh, that will only P.O. the negative Nellies. Common sense has very little place here. Actually his stats for last season weren't too bad. 8 TD passes vs 9 INTs for 1905 yds & just under 60& completion percentage. He also had over 300 yds running. The negatives?? His average yards per passing attempt was 5.1. His yds per rush was higher at around 6.0. Both Whoseyourmomma and Ocho Cinco averaged about 10 yds per reception which is pretty poor. I remember being offered Housh in my FFL but all I had to see were games like 7 receptions for about 50 yds to stay away from him. So, no deep balls from this guy. Probably for the best considering the RWS weather factor, but you'd like to have the threat. Sure we could've picked up Rosenfels for a 4th but we didn't. Rosenfels wants to be a starter and deserves to be. Ok, so we signed someone to be our 2nd string QB. Why is everyone up in arms? We already knew Losman was out. We filled a need and got a good enough player to fill the role.So what if Scout has him ranked at #20. We signed him to be a backup, of course his ranking will be low. This is just the 1st day of FA and there are plenty of players out there. Relax. Shhhh, that will only P.O. the negative Nellies. Common sense has very little place here. Fitzpatrick (6’2” 225) started 12 games completing better than 59 percent of his passes. He threw for over 1,900 yards with eight touchdowns and nine interceptions and a passer rating of 70 for a very poor team. Shhhh, that will only P.O. the negative Nellies. Common sense has very little place here.
cale Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I really, really like this signing. I wanted Garcia here, but he is not going anywhere where he isn't going to be the big cheese. Fitzp. is a good player. He is a leader. He might not have a super arm, but he is very savvy. This signing doesn't threaten TE, but if he regresses Fitz can step in more than adequately. This is a Holcomb type signing, except this kid has b*lls. C
Fewell733 Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 It's an ok move. Not ground shifting. I've seen him play a few times and he really looked like he continued to get better as the year went on last season. He was dreadful in the first few games I saw but later in the year he looked a lot more competent. He's an upgrade over Losman, in that he can actually manage an offense. Has Losman generated any interest yet from anyone?
davefan66 Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Ok, so we signed someone to be our 2nd string QB. Why is everyone up in arms? We already knew Losman was out. We filled a need and got a good enough player to fill the role.So what if Scout has him ranked at #20. We signed him to be a backup, of course his ranking will be low. This is just the 1st day of FA and there are plenty of players out there. Relax. I hoped for a more veteran backup. Someone who could help teach Trent. I do remember Fitzpatrick playing pretty well for the Rams having a few 300 yard plus games in a row. OK signing at best, not bad as a project, but not second string.
berndogg Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I am not so sure about that, really. This guy is the bottom of the barrel. Perfectly put. Its way way way way way worse than grossman, worse than losman, worse than just about anybody. The memory of him that stands out for me was calling my bookie as quickly as I could to bet on the browns when he was announced as starter for the bungles. I honestly think he might be the worst qb in the nfl
Fewell733 Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Perfectly put. Its way way way way way worse than grossman, worse than losman, worse than just about anybody. The memory of him that stands out for me was calling my bookie as quickly as I could to bet on the browns when he was announced as starter for the bungles. I honestly think he might be the worst qb in the nfl I think that's some serious hyperbole.
berndogg Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I think that's some serious hyperbole. maybe just a tad
Steely Dan Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Perfectly put. Its way way way way way worse than grossman, worse than losman, worse than just about anybody. The memory of him that stands out for me was calling my bookie as quickly as I could to bet on the browns when he was announced as starter for the bungles. I honestly think he might be the worst qb in the nfl You obviously have no clue what you're talking about. Fitzpatrick had a 70.0 QB rating last year. IIRC, Grossman had a 59.7 QB rating last year. The last game of 2007 against the Packers he had 0.0 rating. I repeat a 0.0 rating. If you think Grossman would be better than Fitzpatrick you have no idea what you're talking about.
berndogg Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 You obviously have no clue what you're talking about. Fitzpatrick had a 70.0 QB rating last year. IIRC, Grossman had a 59.7 QB rating last year. The last game of 2007 against the Packers he had 0.0 rating. I repeat a 0.0 rating. If you think Grossman would be better than Fitzpatrick you have no idea what you're talking about. I agree that Grossman sucks, but he has had some success in the league, moreso than fitzpatrick. I don't want him either, but I'd rather have signed a guy whose proven he can play than a complete nobody. I'm happy we addressed the center position and I'm way more concerned about how we're goning to address the d line/lb positions than I am about back up qb. I don't want to get into an argument about whether cow sh*t stinks worse than dog sh*t by comparing grossman to fitzpatrick, but fitzpatrick stinks, there's no quesiton about it.
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