The Big Cat Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 link Praise Jesus. If it happens (unlikely), this will be one of the first things I wholeheartedly support from the Obama admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 Praise Jesus. If it happens (unlikely), this will be one of the first things I wholeheartedly support from the Obama admin. Having the support of the AG seems like a pretty big step in it "happening." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Now THAT is change we can believe in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Now THAT is change we can believe in. First smart thing they've actually proposed. The savings to the taxpayer alone is going to be astronomic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Driving even more people with families out of cities like San Francisco. You can get a "prescription" for "medical" marijuana for any made up reason in places like SF. The places attract scum and crime. Many young families cannot stand to live in places like SF because the of the pot "clinics". There was one in an industrial park in my town. The DEA investigated and found they were growing about 10 X the pot needed for their list of "clients". If pot actually works for chemo,(very doubtful) give people THC pills or brownies with the pot in them under a doc's supervision, not let them smoke it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Brawndo, it's what people crave. The dumbing of America continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Brawndo, it's what people crave. The dumbing of America continues. Yes, let's discuss that over a 40-oz sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 Driving even more people with families out of cities like San Francisco. You can get a "prescription" for "medical" marijuana for any made up reason in places like SF. The places attract scum and crime. Many young families cannot stand to live in places like SF because the of the pot "clinics". There was one in an industrial park in my town. The DEA investigated and found they were growing about 10 X the pot needed for their list of "clients". If pot actually works for chemo,(very doubtful) give people THC pills or brownies with the pot in them under a doc's supervision, not let them smoke it. For once, I concur. In fact, I made this very point in the pot thread about a week ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Yes, let's discuss that over a 40-oz sometime. Whoa, that's a lot of smoke there lady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Should just legalize it for recreational use and tax it like alcohol/tobacco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 Whoa, that's a lot of smoke there lady. Sobe bong a 40? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Should just legalize it for recreational use and tax it like alcohol/tobacco I love the way the first thing out of people's mouth with this is legalize it and TAX it!! Why not just look at legalizing it and all the money that would be saved by not having to try, feed, house, "rehabilitate" pot smokers. That savings alone would not require it to taxed as alcohol and tobacco are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I love the way the first thing out of people's mouth with this is legalize it and TAX it!! Why not just look at legalizing it and all the money that would be saved by not having to try, feed, house, "rehabilitate" pot smokers. That savings alone would not require it to taxed as alcohol and tobacco are. To be honest, I haven't heard anyone needing rehab just for abusing pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Wacka, me and Big Cat (shocker) are all on the same page. From what Ive read and seen on some news shows, those pot "clinics" in CA are a huge sham and their "patients" are anything but. Its essentaill a HUGE loophole in the law to allow ANYONE to get their weed. Even the names of some of these dispensiaries, like "The Farmacy", illusrate this. Any anyone who thinks that if its legalized, the "cost" of enforcement of the eventual regulatory laws governing its use wont be absolutely huge is nuts. I dare it say it will be as large if not larger than the cost of law enforcement for keeping it totally illegal. Remember, there is an entire governemnt beaurocracy devoted to the regulation of two legal drugs, tobacco and alcohol. So at the least, take the cost of running that dept and add 1/3 to it. And thats just on the federal level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 To be honest, I haven't heard anyone needing rehab just for abusing pot. But isn't that what our penal system is all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 Wacka, me and Big Cat (shocker) are all on the same page. From what Ive read and seen on some news shows, those pot "clinics" in CA are a huge sham and their "patients" are anything but. Its essentaill a HUGE loophole in the law to allow ANYONE to get their weed. Even the names of some of these dispensiaries, like "The Farmacy", illusrate this. Any anyone who thinks that if its legalized, the "cost" of enforcement of the eventual regulatory laws governing its use wont be absolutely huge is nuts. I dare it say it will be as large if not larger than the cost of law enforcement for keeping it totally illegal. Remember, there is an entire governemnt beaurocracy devoted to the regulation of two legal drugs, tobacco and alcohol. So at the least, take the cost of running that dept and add 1/3 to it. And thats just on the federal level. Yeah, it's tough to say where the "savings" would come from. Sure, you wouldn't be arresting pot smokers, but you'll still be arresting other people. Sure, the legal system won't be processing pot smokers, but it'll still be processing offenders of other crimes. Sure, you won't be incarcerating pot smokers, but the prison system isn't going to all together cease, and so on. BUT- it would absolutely generate revenue- for growers, suppliers, sellers, etc. And just to demonstrate that I DO understand basic economics , freeing up that sort of cash could support whole communities where the growing conditions are right (see: the state of Kentucky). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I love the way the first thing out of people's mouth with this is legalize it and TAX it!! Why not just look at legalizing it and all the money that would be saved by not having to try, feed, house, "rehabilitate" pot smokers. That savings alone would not require it to taxed as alcohol and tobacco are. oh ok ok. Let's legalize it and not tax it... Frankly I think that it will be legalized, but it will be taxed JUST to shut up the people who will scream at the legalization. Because you know they're out there. The new drug czar, by the way, is a pretty reasonable guy and when he was nominated the first reaction out here was "betcha he allows legalized pot". I wonder how the wingnut's chief drug-abuser, the Big Ditto himself, would react to legalization? He can't blame his pill-popping addition on pot so the "start with pot and end up on smack" talk won't work...maybe he'd just continue railing about socialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeseburger_in_paradise Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Wacka, me and Big Cat (shocker) are all on the same page. From what Ive read and seen on some news shows, those pot "clinics" in CA are a huge sham and their "patients" are anything but. Its essentaill a HUGE loophole in the law to allow ANYONE to get their weed. Even the names of some of these dispensiaries, like "The Farmacy", illusrate this. Any anyone who thinks that if its legalized, the "cost" of enforcement of the eventual regulatory laws governing its use wont be absolutely huge is nuts. I dare it say it will be as large if not larger than the cost of law enforcement for keeping it totally illegal. Remember, there is an entire governemnt beaurocracy devoted to the regulation of two legal drugs, tobacco and alcohol. So at the least, take the cost of running that dept and add 1/3 to it. And thats just on the federal level. Just put it all under the influence.. er.. control, of the dept. of alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and weed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Driving even more people with families out of cities like San Francisco. You can get a "prescription" for "medical" marijuana for any made up reason in places like SF. The places attract scum and crime. Many young families cannot stand to live in places like SF because the of the pot "clinics". There was one in an industrial park in my town. The DEA investigated and found they were growing about 10 X the pot needed for their list of "clients". If pot actually works for chemo,(very doubtful) give people THC pills or brownies with the pot in them under a doc's supervision, not let them smoke it. There is a bill pending in your state to legalize outright. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/deadlineus...ion-legislation It will raise revenue, shift costs to where they are better needed and help stem the Mexican drug problem. If the Federal gov't is willing to cede authority to the states, we may be setting up a states rights case on this. If the states win, its legalized (in any state that wants it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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