DCbillsfan Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 It sounds like you don't make more than $250k but let me ask you would you be ok with the government taking more money from you if it was for the greater good? No. Here's why. I work for the government and they waste money left and right. They have meetings all the time and nothing gets done the way it should the first time around. Then they have more meetings to unscrew what they screwed up in the first set of meetings! And so on. Less government is better. Businesses create real jobs and the government should help them so they can create more jobs and hire more people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I never said the problems were caused exclusively by debt. Read the sentence again. But thanks for telling me I don't know what's going on, even though I've been stating on this board for a very long time that this situation was coming. Are these the same economists that completely missed this situation over the past 17 years? You'll forgive me for not giving a flying crap about their opinion. What "situation" are you talking about? The credit problem? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I don't support any of them. I can't not support most of what's in the stimulus package because I see it as throwing down a SH-T ton of money for stuff that should have been paid for (in the system that's in place) incrementally over the last decade. If you're arguing that the whole system needs revamped, I don't disagree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 No. Here's why. I work for the government and they waste money left and right. They have meetings all the time and nothing gets done the way it should the first time around. Then they have more meetings to unscrew what they screwed up in the first set of meetings! And so on. Less government is better. Businesses create real jobs and the government should help them so they can create more jobs and hire more people. So I take it you're resigning tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 A $500 meal to a rich person is the equivalent of a $25 meal to someone without money. The difference in amount does NOT reflect the difference in percentage. Wow. That is the most idiotic mindless, meaningless analogy I've ever seen, even by the standards of mindless, meaningless analogies. And you got that from you "investment banker" friends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 So I take it you're resigning tomorrow? Good one! Nah. I'm fighting for you guys! Trying to cut red tape left and right. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Wow. That is the most idiotic mindless, meaningless analogy I've ever seen, even by the standards of mindless, meaningless analogies. And you got that from you "investment banker" friends? Why? because my numbers are silly? EDIT: and let me know what an "expensive" meal is for you. I just told you what mine is: $25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Why? because my numbers are silly? EDIT: and let me know what an "expensive" meal is for you. I just told you what mine is: $25. It has nothing to do with your numbers. It's your inability to look at anything above the surface level. It's not your fault, it's systemic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 It has nothing to do with your numbers. It's your inability to look at anything above the surface level. It's not your fault, it's systemic. Then enlighten me, oh wise one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Why? because my numbers are silly? EDIT: and let me know what an "expensive" meal is for you. I just told you what mine is: $25. No, because your analogy is silly. You know, if you really thought that made sense, explaining how utterly senseless it was is a complete waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 No, because your analogy is silly. You know, if you really thought that made sense, explaining how utterly senseless it was is a complete waste of time. Well, considering it was with a CHEF about the FOOD industry, no, in fact it was precisely what we were talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Well, considering it was with a CHEF about the FOOD industry, no, in fact it was precisely what we were talking about. Because when I want insight into the relative affordability of a meal, I turn to the person who cooks it. Nope, still silly. Sillier now, even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Because when I want insight into the relative affordability of a meal, I turn to the person who cooks it. Nope, still silly. Sillier now, even. All right, man. Have it your way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I get my economic news from a few sources, namely the guests on Fresh Air, Common Sense with Dan Carlin, This American Life, and Democracy Now. These guests generally consist of economic scholars, Nobel Prize winners, etc. I listen to what they say, and they're NEVER totatlly in favor of Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Having close ties to a lot as-holes who work as investment bankers in NYC, I can tell you: no I'm not. A $500 meal to a rich person is the equivalent of a $25 meal to someone without money. The difference in amount does NOT reflect the difference in percentage. How do people with no money buy a $25 meal? Dine and dash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 It sounds like you don't make more than $250k but let me ask you would you be ok with the government taking more money from you if it was for the greater good? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Believe it or not, Fixed Noise isn't the ONLY place to get your news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 IMO, these tax issue discussions are funny. All it does is put the tax rate back to where it was 10 years ago. It didn't kill the country then, it won't kill the country in 2011. Like it or not, the only way you're getting the deficit down is a tax increase like this and cuts. So, if you want a balanced federal budget, you have to realize that some measure of tax increase is required. What should be discussed is the wholesale changes in healthcare, medicare, defense spending, and so on and so forth. Obama has laid the outline for some very serious and profound changes. Good or bad, I couldn't begin to tell you yet; but the guy is taking on some huge issues that he's almost certain to fail in (and by fail I mean not get passed through congress). So, in the end, I'd be shocked if Congress does a quarter of what he's outlined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Yes. Then why not send a check? I bet they'll take it. Are you going to do that or is it different now that we're talking about your wallet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 IMO, these tax issue discussions are funny. All it does is put the tax rate back to where it was 10 years ago. It didn't kill the country then, it won't kill the country in 2011. Like it or not, the only way you're getting the deficit down is a tax increase like this and cuts. So, if you want a balanced federal budget, you have to realize that some measure of tax increase is required. What should be discussed is the wholesale changes in healthcare, medicare, defense spending, and so on and so forth. Obama has laid the outline for some very serious and profound changes. Good or bad, I couldn't begin to tell you yet; but the guy is taking on some huge issues that he's almost certain to fail in (and by fail I mean not get passed through congress). So, in the end, I'd be shocked if Congress does a quarter of what he's outlined. Because what you DON"T do is raise taxes during a recession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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