drinkTHEkoolaid Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I have no idea what marshawn would be worth, maybe something like a late 1st rounder? an early 2nd and 4th? if you could trade him, would you? and what "realistically" would it take for you to trade him? just curious what the general thoughts and feelings are. i would trade him for a high 2nd and 4th. and try to sign fred taylor. the picks would give them a lot of flexability provided they dont mess it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 in a heartbeat I'd trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I think we could maybe get Boldin or Winslow for him...I would trade him for something like that only because I believe Jackson could be a top 10 back as a full time starter. I wouldnt be too high on draft picks, because there is no certainty the players we pick will ever amount to much, but if we could get a really good player or even ELITE player like Boldin, then I would be all over it. Then sign Taylor to back up Jackson, and we would still have a lethal RB squad IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I hate to say this cause I like the style of play from Marshawn the toughness and all. But as an overall player....I dont like him. He has a terrible problem trying to catch the ball out of the backfield, he drops more passes then he catches. He rarely finds holes that are there. Honestly, I think Fred Jackson is just as good as Lynch. I think we can cut ties with Lynch grab draft picks and be on our way....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Another "trade a star player" thread I wouldn't trade Lynch unless we got a top 15 1st round pick and a 3rd rounder. I would then use that pick to take Beanie Wells from Ohio St. or Knowshon Moreno from Georgia. Either way, it would be like we traded Marshawn for a rookie RB and whatever we got in the 3rd. On a side not though, I don't really want to trade Lynch at all. The guy is a GOOD, versitile RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I'd take either a late 1st/early 2nd along with a 4th or 5th. IMO Lynch is only going to get in more trouble. Dump him while you can. The best part about the whole thing...you end up with a more versatile starting RB in Jackson who in addition to being a good player, is able to keep his nose clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjohns85 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I think we could maybe get Boldin or Daniels for him...I would trade him for something like that only because I believe Jackson could be a top 10 back as a full time starter. I wouldnt be too high on draft picks, because there is no certainty the players we pick will ever amount to much, but if we could get a really good player or even ELITE player like Boldin, then I would be all over it. Then sign Taylor to back up Jackson, and we would still have a lethal RB squad IMO i wouldn't trade him simply because he is young and has a great deal of talent. marshawn has had some off the field issues, but is one of the few players that has any heart. i love watching me some marshawn on sundays because he gets his fellow bills and us fans involved. he is the one player that i love watching the most. just wait to see what he can do when he gets a good center and a jason peters that is ready to live up to his pro bowl status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLynchTrain Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 This is a tough one, because I'm not sure if it would set us back once again or give us some damn good picks to improve elsewhere. The thing is that its almost 100 % certain that Lynch would go somewhere else and put up ADP numbers behind a decent line and a good core of offensive talent. 100% sure about that. And he probably wouldnt take as much of a beating. Wait, why isn't he screaming for a trade again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 interesting opinions so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I think we could maybe get Boldin or Winslow for him...I would trade him for something like that only because I believe Jackson could be a top 10 back as a full time starter. I wouldnt be too high on draft picks, because there is no certainty the players we pick will ever amount to much, but if we could get a really good player or even ELITE player like Boldin, then I would be all over it. Then sign Taylor to back up Jackson, and we would still have a lethal RB squad IMO Now, I would do a Boldin for Lynch swap. I wouldn't do a Winslow for Lynch swap though. If we traded Lynch for Boldin, I would then pursue Derrick Ward in FA to go along with Jackson. I know he's 29, but he hasn't had the wear and tear on his body like some NFL RB's have had at that point in their career. He also averaged 5.6 ypc this past season. I still don't really want to get rid of Lynch just yet. Let's wait till he starts talking about us moving to Toronto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair GM Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Now, I would do a Boldin for Lynch swap. I wouldn't do a Winslow for Lynch swap though. If we traded Lynch for Boldin, I would then pursue Derrick Ward in FA to go along with Jackson. I know he's 29, but he hasn't had the wear and tear on his body like some NFL RB's have had at that point in their career. He also averaged 5.6 ypc this past season. I still don't really want to get rid of Lynch just yet. Let's wait till he starts talking about us moving to Toronto If we sign Fred Taylor, you better believe we'll be shopping Lynch, like it or not. Personally I love the guy but his pass catching ability is subject and so is longevity with that kind of running style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Now, I would do a Boldin for Lynch swap. I wouldn't do a Winslow for Lynch swap though. If we traded Lynch for Boldin, I would then pursue Derrick Ward in FA to go along with Jackson. I know he's 29, but he hasn't had the wear and tear on his body like some NFL RB's have had at that point in their career. He also averaged 5.6 ypc this past season. I still don't really want to get rid of Lynch just yet. Let's wait till he starts talking about us moving to Toronto Yeah Ward could also be a good compliment to Jackson. I am not a fan of trading Lynch for picks, unless it was a bounty like a 1st and a 3rd...problem is, RB's never go for that much. Heck, Sea and Indy tried trading Alexander and Edge when they were still in their prime but couldnt even get a 2nd. Add in Lynch's off field troubles and I just dont see a sexy enough package of picks to warrant moving him. AZ may be forced to trade Boldin, and they need a RB...so this could be a win win here. Im not crazy about Winslow, but he definitely fills a big need, so I would be ok with it. Again, this stems from the faith I have in Jackson to be a dangerous back, who I actually think hits the hole more consistently than Lynch and is a better reciever out of the back field. I love how Lynch runs, but Jackson is no slouch IMO, and if we can get back top talent for Lynch, then I say do it. I dont want to see us just give him away though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 A first round pick or a 2nd and a 4th? I would do it in a heartbeat. In fact, I would make that trade even if I had to wait until 2010 for the picks. The one thing that could hold me back would be the thought of Dick Levy wasting these precious draft choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I wouldn't trade Lynch unless it was for something / someone exceptional, Boldin perhaps, maybe even to Cincy for Chad Johnson. Lynch is arguably the best player the Bills have IMO. Jackson is really good, but who knows if he can take a full seasons pounding,even if the Bills were to add Taylor which would be a mistake IMO. RB's take more abuse then any other position, there is a reason the Jags have dumped him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Marshawn's trade value is probably at an all time low right now. He is a risk for whoever would trade for him. The Bills would be selling low. I'll bet it doesn't happen and I'm skeptical that there would even be trade talks. On top of that, this is considered a very deep year for running backs (since so many junior RBs declared) so most teams with a need in that area will look to the draft. I don't believe the trade rumors. They make no sense. We wouldn't get value in return. I still think the Fred Taylor stuff is insurance oriented in case an injury/suspension happens to Lynch or Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 unbelievable! actually, it is believable, it doesn't surprise me that the respondants on this thread would want to trade our probowl players. Seem's to be an ammusingly disturbing trend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 like i say with any other player on the bills.. if it's a great offer, then hell yes i'd trade him in a heartbeat. anything less, then no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 unbelievable! actually, it is believable, it doesn't surprise me that the respondants on this thread would want to trade our probowl players. Seem's to be an ammusingly disturbing trend The "why trade pro bowl players" argument is a very valid one when talking about draft picks, as there is no assurance of how those picks will translate to the NFL, and I agree this would be a mistake. However, if you are getting back a better talent like Boldin, then the fact Lynch was a Pro Bowl Alternate is irrelevant as Boldin is and has been a better player his whole career at a much tougher position to fill. You dont pass up a chance to get that kind of talent, epecially when giving up lesser talent at a position we are deep at. Lynch is a very good RB, but Boldin is an Elite WR. Jackson is no slouch either, so the drop off is minor, if there is any drop off at all. Honestly, look at these two hypothetical lineups and which one do you think produces more points? Trent, Lynch, Jackson, Reed, Evans Trent, Jackson, Taylor, Boldin, Evans (my pick for more points IMO) Add in the fact that having Boldin would be a perfect compliment to how Trent likes to throw and it will open up the running game even more making the ground game more effective. I guess what it boils down to is your opinnion of Jacksons ability to be a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 The "why trade pro bowl players" argument is a very valid one when talking about draft picks, as there is no assurance of how those picks will translate to the NFL, and I agree this would be a mistake. However, if you are getting back a better talent like Boldin, then the fact Lynch was a Pro Bowl Alternate is irrelevant as Boldin is and has been a better player his whole career at a much tougher position to fill. You dont pass up a chance to get that kind of talent, epecially when giving up lesser talent at a position we are deep at. Lynch is a very good RB, but Boldin is an Elite WR. Jackson is no slouch either, so the drop off is minor, if there is any drop off at all. Honestly, look at these two hypothetical lineups and which one do you think produces more points? Trent, Lynch, Jackson, Reed, Evans Trent, Jackson, Taylor, Boldin, Evans (my pick for more points IMO) Add in the fact that having Boldin would be a perfect compliment to how Trent likes to throw and it will open up the running game even more making the ground game more effective. I guess what it boils down to is your opinnion of Jacksons ability to be a starter. I wouldn't be opposed to having Boldin. That's a lot of money though for 2 wide receivers. Between Lee Evans and Boldin, you gotta figure thats close to $20 Million a year for 2 wideouts. That makes up around %16 of the total that we can spend on our entire team. $20 Million for 2 wideouts $100 Million for the rest of the 50 players doesn't seem proportionate to me. I would have to believe that this would water out the talent level moving forward, unless we drafted really well, since these guys you really don't take that much off the cap figure. Having said that, I would love to have a Boldin as our #1 reciever. I would have to say that our offense would be better with him in the lineup as opposed to having Lynch and Jackson. This would be one of the very few scenarios that I would be happy with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 unbelievable! actually, it is believable, it doesn't surprise me that the respondants on this thread would want to trade our probowl players. Seem's to be an ammusingly disturbing trend Why? Everyone has a price at which is makes complete sense to trade. The thread question was simply a hypothetical. Personally I wouldn't do it for a 2d and a 4th since half of all draft picks are busts, but I would certainly do it for a top flight WR like Boldin or Burress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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