Ramius Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 I don't recall any of the Levy/Polian era guys getting into trouble with the law as much as recent Bills have. If football character were the prevailing wisdom (of which I'm sure every team subscribes to) why in the heck was McCargo drafted. This whole thing demonstrates that all teams take risks and ultimately bend their rules in the interest of acquiring talented football players. Was your head lodged in your ass during the super bowl years? Bills not getting in trouble? Or is it that the Bills were winning games back then so no one cared? Or is it that you are willing to dig into anything and everything to take a shot at Levy?
millbank Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 California Firearms Law HANDGUNS California Penal Code section 12025 does not prevent a citizen of the United States over 18 years of age who is not lawfully prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, from transporting by motor vehicle any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person provided the firearm is unloaded and stored in a locked container. The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1. Would appear if reports are correct he had gun in trunk, he may have been within his rights...
VOR Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 So an unloaded gun in a locked trunk with bullets next to it is okey-dokey, but a loaded gun in a locked trunk is a felony? Wow.
Cornerville Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Buffalo, the home of "the greatest fans" in the NFL, sure turn on their own fast. If this was Tim Tebow, you would have Tim in jail by now.
Thurman#1 Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Was your head lodged in your ass during the super bowl years? Bills not getting in trouble? Or is it that the Bills were winning games back then so no one cared? Or is it that you are willing to dig into anything and everything to take a shot at Levy? OK, name some arrests back then. The only one I can think of is Bruce Smith asleep in his car. No gun probs that I remember. No wife-beating that I can remember. You're the one who's laughing out loud, so letl's hear it, what are you talking about?
Thurman#1 Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Was it loaded or unloaded? According to the above code, if the weapon is unloaded and in the truck, then he is in compliance. If the weapon is loaded and in the truck then it's a felony. It was loaded. link: http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-5-63/...awn-Lynch-.html
BillsVet Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Was your head lodged in your ass during the super bowl years? Bills not getting in trouble? Or is it that the Bills were winning games back then so no one cared? Or is it that you are willing to dig into anything and everything to take a shot at Levy? Your head was permanently lodged in your fourth point of contact for about four months leading up to draft day 08.
Cornerville Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Well, here is a positive to this whole issue: Those who wait for ESPN to talk about the Bills, as if what they say validates your existence as a Bills fan, Marshawn's troubles should be the talk of Mike and Mike and Colin Cownerd this week, isn't that wonderful?? ESPN IS TALKING ABOUT THE BILLS!! oooooh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
justnzane Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 OK, name some arrests back then. The only one I can think of is Bruce Smith asleep in his car. No gun probs that I remember. No wife-beating that I can remember. You're the one who's laughing out loud, so letl's hear it, what are you talking about? you kidding? Darryl Talley had a DWI, I'm pretty sure Thurman had one. I want to say Leonard Smith had one. The SB Bills were partiers through and through, and they would have gotten into more sh-- if they weren't as good.
Cornerville Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 you kidding? Darryl Talley had a DWI, I'm pretty sure Thurman had one. I want to say Leonard Smith had one. The SB Bills were partiers through and through, and they would have gotten into more sh-- if they weren't as good. Ok, so since there were arrests then, we should just turn a blind eye to Marshawn The NFL is AS BAD OR WORSE then these other leagues tha NFL fans talk about as if the NFL is so sacred. I get turned off more and more to the NFL each month.
JavaKeith Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 The 2nd amendment mandates that all citizens are allowed to keep and bear arms. This is not a crime. Just a crazy state government. My thoughts, prayers, and props are with Marshawn. Freeeeeeedooooommmm!
JinVA Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 you kidding? Darryl Talley had a DWI, I'm pretty sure Thurman had one. I want to say Leonard Smith had one. The SB Bills were partiers through and through, and they would have gotten into more sh-- if they weren't as good. A DUI is not a felony.
Offside Number 76 Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Has it occurred to anyone that the reason the Culver City police didn't publicize this* was because someone there realized that there might not have been any good reason for the search to begin with? Has it occurred to anyone that the same PD may have charged everyone in the car with "possession" of the same weapon, which was in the trunk? More importantly, and I direct this to the Americans on this board, which should be the majority (non-Americans, you may well have a very different standard where you live), what the hell happened to the God-given right of reasonable freedom from police intrusion? Has anyone given any decent explanation for why this car was pulled over? What happened to the gun nuts (I did see a very well-articulated comment earlier in the thread about how gun freedom is protected if you're white) who should be screaming about Lynch's right to bear arms? What happened to the presumption of innocence? Some of the comments I've read suggest that there's a fair amount of self-examination due for some of our so-called "patriots" on this board. The absolute worst came from a poster who suggested that Lynch "was trouble" the moment he was drafted. The press on Lynch after the draft was all about how he bought a suburban WNY house for his mother and brother, to get them out of the rougher area in which he grew up, and to keep them close to him. He was lauded for his family commitment and his desire to see his little brother succeed. There was no mention of any trouble when Lynch was drafted, and of course, when I challenged said poster to come forward with something, anything, well, there was nothing. A lot of what I'm reading early this morning (on Presidents' Day, of course) is bigoted or ignorant at best, anti-American at worst, and completely not helpful at all. Despite what Lynch did last year on Chippewa Street (and I believe that he did what he is purported to have done), there's no reason to some of what I've read here. Even if the facts eventually prove those posters to be correct, there's no reason to those posts, at this point. * I saw Tim Graham's earlier comment on this board, and in this thread, about how the media wouldn't necessarily have picked up on this quickly, because they may not have known that the man arrested was an NFL player, because, in turn, the police may not have known. With due respect, I think that's unlikely. At the station, Question 2 should have been, "So, what do you do for a living, Mr. Lynch?" (Right after Question 1, "What brings you to Culver City?") I understand, but do not believe, that Lynch may not have answered the questions. It's become normal for PDs across the country to publicize celebrity arrests before any determination of whether prosecution is proper, unfortunately, and I think it's no accident that this arrest was buried. But it was nice of Mr. Graham to post.
JinVA Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Has it occurred to anyone that the reason the Culver City police didn't publicize this* was because someone there realized that there might not have been any good reason for the search to begin with? Has it occurred to anyone that the same PD may have charged everyone in the car with "possession" of the same weapon, which was in the trunk? More importantly, and I direct this to the Americans on this board, which should be the majority (non-Americans, you may well have a very different standard where you live), what the hell happened to the God-given right of reasonable freedom from police intrusion? Has anyone given any decent explanation for why this car was pulled over? What happened to the gun nuts (I did see a very well-articulated comment earlier in the thread about how gun freedom is protected if you're white) who should be screaming about Lynch's right to bear arms? What happened to the presumption of innocence? Some of the comments I've read suggest that there's a fair amount of self-examination due for some of our so-called "patriots" on this board. The absolute worst came from a poster who suggested that Lynch "was trouble" the moment he was drafted. The press on Lynch after the draft was all about how he bought a suburban WNY house for his mother and brother, to get them out of the rougher area in which he grew up, and to keep them close to him. He was lauded for his family commitment and his desire to see his little brother succeed. There was no mention of any trouble when Lynch was drafted, and of course, when I challenged said poster to come forward with something, anything, well, there was nothing. A lot of what I'm reading early this morning (on Presidents' Day, of course) is bigoted or ignorant at best, anti-American at worst, and completely not helpful at all. Despite what Lynch did last year on Chippewa Street (and I believe that he did what he is purported to have done), there's no reason to some of what I've read here. Even if the facts eventually prove those posters to be correct, there's no reason to those posts, at this point. * I saw Tim Graham's earlier comment on this board, and in this thread, about how the media wouldn't necessarily have picked up on this quickly, because they may not have known that the man arrested was an NFL player, because, in turn, the police may not have known. With due respect, I think that's unlikely. At the station, Question 2 should have been, "So, what do you do for a living, Mr. Lynch?" (Right after Question 1, "What brings you to Culver City?") I understand, but do not believe, that Lynch may not have answered the questions. It's become normal for PDs across the country to publicize celebrity arrests before any determination of whether prosecution is proper, unfortunately, and I think it's no accident that this arrest was buried. But it was nice of Mr. Graham to post. Nice melt.
jax bill backer Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Let's start a new ML gun thread, just to guess the caliber of the weapon. 29 cal....
Tsaikotic Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 anyone see the episode of Real Sports on HBO where they talked about NFl players and guns?...most players carry guns now to protect themselves...a lot are scared about what happened to the players who were killed, shotup , lost limbs, and assaulted in just the past year...add to the fact that most grew up in really bad areas and still have family that live in those areas...its easy to say "dont go there" when they now have money and can move there parents and siblings to wherever, but you cant expect them to move there whole families everywhere they go...at some point if these players want to see there families, they are going to have to go back to where they grew up...as for not haveing a permit for the guns, thats just stupid, but I dont know Lynch's history and something might have happened that would not alow him to have a permit...I assume a lot of the NFL players have some kind of a "checkered past"...so there are probably a lot of players carrying without permits...I suggest finding the episode from Real Sports and watching it...its very insightful on how some of these players feel about guns....personally I dont think much will happen to Lynch about this...those of you who think Buffalo will cut him for it are just loopy...carrying a gun in the NFL is just a common thing now...as one player stated in Real Sports..he says that people tell him that the team has security, yes, but they dont fallow him to his car in the parkinglots or to his home or to the resturaunt he eats at...outside of the stadium hes on his own in this world
Steely Dan Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Wow a young black football player from Oakland had a gun in his car?! Shocking, and la di freakin da. Can't wait to see Marshawn on opening day wooooo BEASTMODE!!!! You may have to wait til game five for that. True. Burress got a long suspension...oh wait what? Burress wasn't suspended? Linkage TAMPA - Plaxico Burress is likely still facing an NFL suspension, but the commissioner is in no rush to judge him because this was the troubled receiver's first offense. That's what Roger Goodell said Friday, in his first public comments on the Burress incident. Asked why the NFL hasn't punished Burress yet, even though it has been two months since the receiver shot himself in the thigh in a Manhattan nightclub and earned himself a suspension from the Giants, Goodell said he prefers to let players have their day in court, unless the player is a repeat offender. "We're looking to deal with repeat offenders, and we may not wait for the legal process to conclude when we have repeat offenders," Goodell said. "You can have a false accusation once, maybe twice. When you start getting into multiple accusations, you're putting yourself in the wrong position, you're making the wrong decisions, you're in the wrong places. At that point in time, you're reflecting poorly on the NFL, yourself, your teammates. That does damage for all of us." In addition to it being Burress' first offense the Giants suspended him for the last four games themselves. This is Marshawn's second offense. Unless it's proven to be much ado about nothing he has a good chance of waiting til game 5 to suit up.
Steely Dan Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 anyone see the episode of Real Sports on HBO where they talked about NFl players and guns?...most players carry guns now to protect themselves...a lot are scared about what happened to the players who were killed, shotup , lost limbs, and assaulted in just the past year...add to the fact that most grew up in really bad areas and still have family that live in those areas...its easy to say "dont go there" when they now have money and can move there parents and siblings to wherever, but you cant expect them to move there whole families everywhere they go...at some point if these players want to see there families, they are going to have to go back to where they grew up...as for not haveing a permit for the guns, thats just stupid, but I dont know Lynch's history and something might have happened that would not alow him to have a permit...I assume a lot of the NFL players have some kind of a "checkered past"...so there are probably a lot of players carrying without permits...I suggest finding the episode from Real Sports and watching it...its very insightful on how some of these players feel about guns....personally I dont think much will happen to Lynch about this...those of you who think Buffalo will cut him for it are just loopy...carrying a gun in the NFL is just a common thing now...as one player stated in Real Sports..he says that people tell him that the team has security, yes, but they dont fallow him to his car in the parkinglots or to his home or to the resturaunt he eats at...outside of the stadium hes on his own in this world Hiring body guards is a much smarter decision, JMO.
DazedandConfused Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 The 2nd amendment mandates that all citizens are allowed to keep and bear arms. This is not a crime. Just a crazy state government. My thoughts, prayers, and props are with Marshawn. Freeeeeeedooooommmm! The actual wording of the second amendment is right on point here since I am certain that Lynch's actions were part of his being in a well regulated militia.
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