Stussy109 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 CRAZZZZZY, this one kind of hit home for me because Newark is the airport I fly out of all the time to go to the bills games being I'm living in Jersey now(Continental is usually the cheapest). Guess I'll be driving to all the games now. My sister and brother in law live about 5000 ft from the incident. RIP Apparently one unlucky SOB died on the ground as well (6038 long st.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 It appears that the cause of the crash was bad weather/wind/rain/snow reported fog turning to ice on the wings of other aircraft in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Here's the ATC audio. The last response from the flight crew was at 16:07 into the file. No distress calls at all. http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kbuf/KBU...-2009-0300Z.mp3 It's super creepy hearing somebody's last words before a death they have absolutely no idea is coming. It obviously happened in a flash and those aboard probably only had seconds, if that, to realize what was happening. At about 17:15 you can hear the tower trying to communicate with the plane. They ask another plane if they see anything about five miles off and they say nothing can be seen but I'd think the explosion would have been visible. At about 20:00 they become aware that the plane probably crashed and at about 21:30 they declare an emergency. At about 22:35 cactus 1452 reports they've been picking up on ice for awhile. At about 23:58 they start talking to planes about icing. One plane says they have about a half inch of ice and the cactus 1452 states they've been having icing for about 10 minutes so far. So it appears icing is a possible cause for the crash. IIRC, Sully said cactus is the code word for a US Air flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 According to this article they reported something wrong but every other outlet I've seen or heard is not saying that. Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority spokesman C. Douglas Hartmayer said there was little communication between the plane, Flight 3407, and the tower before the crash. Crew members aboard the flight from Newark Airport had reported mechanical problems as they approached Buffalo. Listening to the tower transmission I don't hear anything about mechanical problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede316 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Very Sad....God bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Horrific! For both the families of the flight and our neighbors in WNY. My thoughts are with you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorp15 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 I heard a strange loud noise outside and 10 minutes later my fiance's mother called and said a plane crashed near us. We can see the smoke and red sky right outside our back windows. There's nothing but fields between us and where the plane crashed. Flight 3407 originated from Newark. Reports are all 48 people on board are dead and at least one on the ground. Prayers go out to all families affected by this tragedy. Sad day in WNY. http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/577959.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Location of crash site: http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&...1&encType=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Watching some of the news reports through Yahoo Video. Well, they proceed some with a quick commercial. Their choice? The Nyquil airline stewardess with the cold commercial. Great product placement guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjeff215 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 If someone hears anything about a charity for family members or something, please post, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Wow....what terrible news. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kgun5 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 It's now being reported that 50 people have died in the crash, as apparently there were 49 on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 This is truly horrible. From what I'm reading it sounds like icing is a major factor. I was up until midnight last night, but I didn't hear anything about the crash until I turned the news on at 7:30 this morning. PTS, you said that planes fly low over your property. I live about five miles from Hopkins Airport here in Cleveland, so I know exactly what you're talking about. It seems like either the planes are getting lower or the engines are getting louder. My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of whose who lost loved ones. RIP to those who died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mularkey Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Thoughts and prayers for all involved. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 It's now being reported that 50 people have died in the crash, as apparently there were 49 on board. MSNBC & CNN said that two people miraculously made it out of the house, but one did not. My prayers & condolences go out to all of the families involved in this. I can only imagine what everyone is going through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Horrible news. Thoughts and prayers for everyone involved, and i hope no one here on the board was affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPR4444 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 It's been reported that one of the victims is a widow of a 09/11 victim, who was returning to Buffalo for a scholarship ceremony honoring her late husband. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Guess I'll be driving to all the games now. I wouldn't use this as a reason not to fly. Tragedies can strike anywhere. Remember the I-35 bridge collapse in Minnesota? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 I wouldn't use this as a reason not to fly. Tragedies can strike anywhere. Remember the I-35 bridge collapse in Minnesota? This was the first fatal crash of a commercial flight since around August of 2006, so we're talking about over 2.5 years in between. My wife used to frequently travel across the country for work. When I asked her if she was ever concerned about her plane crashing, she said if it happens, then it happens. You don't know when or where these tragedies will happen, so you can't live your life worrying about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 I wouldn't use this as a reason not to fly. Tragedies can strike anywhere. Remember the I-35 bridge collapse in Minnesota? 1st commecial crash (with fatalities) in America in 2.5 years they said on the CBC. Sad news for sure. I hope everyone here and their families are ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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