What young QB would rather have than Edwards?

[Flbillsfan#1]

Here's an idea. Let's do this like intelligent people instead of morons. I know it's a strange and novel concept but please play along with me.

 

What young quarterback would you rather have than Trent Edwards (3rd round, 92 overall) based on where they were selected?

 

Tyler Thigpen 7th round, 217 overall

 

Brady Quinn 1st round, 22 overall

 

JaMarcus Russell 1st round, 2nd overall

 

Aaron Rodgers 1st round, 24 overall

 

Jason Campbell 1st round, 25 overall

 

Jay Cutler 1st round, 11th overall

 

Kellen Clemens 2nd round, 49 overall

 

Kyle Orton 4th round, 106 overall

 

Matt Leinart 1st round, 10th overall

 

Tarvaris Jackson 2nd round, 64 overall

 

Joe Flacco 1st round, 18 overall

 

Matt Ryan 1st round, 3rd overall

 

(Strange how he's being compared to 8 quarterbacks taken in the first round)

As has been pointed out by Trent fans before, Tom Brady was taken in the 6th round while a number of BUSTS have been taken in the 1st. It does not matter where a player was taken, the only thing that matters is how they play.

[The Dean]

Interesting...I get the Rodgers pick, but surprise you left Cutler off and added Quinn, Flacco, and Ryan...

 

Any particular reason why?

 

Still not a Cutler fan. Maybe I've just picked the wrong games to watch the Broncos, but he seems to make too many stupid decisions, and puts his team in bad situations. Plus, he seems like a bit of a jerk.

 

Quinn, Flacco and Ryan have better overall skills than Trent, and all seem bright and capable. I'm not suggesting that all three will end up better than Trent, but right now I'd feel a little bit more confident with any of them. I sincerely hope that I am wrong, and Trent outplays them all. But, Trent can still be a fine QB and not surpass any, or all, of these other QBs.

[The Dean]

Here's an idea. Let's do this like intelligent people instead of morons. I know it's a strange and novel concept but please play along with me.

 

(Strange how he's being compared to 8 quarterbacks taken in the first round)

 

 

Once a guy is on your team, and starting, it really doesn't matter where they were selected, does it? That's interesting when you are talking about the ability of a front office to find gems in the later rounds, but when you are discussing who you would rather have as your QB, why do you care where they were drafted? Is Tom Brady great BECAUSE he was drafted in the 6th round? I'd expect us to like our QB because he plays well...not because he plays better than the round in which he was picked.

[Alphadawg7]

Still not a Cutler fan. Maybe I've just picked the wrong games to watch the Broncos, but he seems to make too many stupid decisions, and puts his team in bad situations. Plus, he seems like a bit of a jerk.

 

Quinn, Flacco and Ryan have better overall skills than Trent, and all seem bright and capable. I'm not suggesting that all three will end up better than Trent, but right now I'd feel a little bit more confident with any of them. I sincerely hope that I am wrong, and Trent outplays them all. But, Trent can still be a fine QB and not surpass any, or all, of these other QBs.

 

I get ya...was just curious. He has a cannon arm and a mean streak, so I like that about him. I am not sold on Quinn or Flacco yet, too soon to tell. Ryan though (I know he has the same amount of starts as Flacco) showed a lot more potential to me than Flacco during his season. He made some big time throws, so I can see why you put him on there. Flacco I am just not sold on yet...he has promise though, thats for sure. Quinn just didnt get much playing time as he got hurt shortly after he got the job, but I really liked him coming out of college, so I will be curious to see how he comes in as the starter next year.

[2003Contenders]

I would probably take Cutler over Trent, although Trent just kicked Culter's hind-end on the field in Week 16.

 

Based on what we saw last year, I would also take Ryan. I am not so sure about Flacco.

 

I would prefer Rodgers NOW, but he has been in the league a couple years longer and got to sit and watch behind Favre. Remember, there was a time when many of us preferred JP to Rodgers.

[C.Biscuit97]

Here's an idea. Let's do this like intelligent people instead of morons. I know it's a strange and novel concept but please play along with me.

 

What young quarterback would you rather have than Trent Edwards (3rd round, 92 overall) based on where they were selected?

 

Tyler Thigpen 7th round, 217 overall

 

Brady Quinn 1st round, 22 overall

 

JaMarcus Russell 1st round, 2nd overall

 

Aaron Rodgers 1st round, 24 overall

 

Jason Campbell 1st round, 25 overall

 

Jay Cutler 1st round, 11th overall

 

Kellen Clemens 2nd round, 49 overall

 

Kyle Orton 4th round, 106 overall

 

Matt Leinart 1st round, 10th overall

 

Tarvaris Jackson 2nd round, 64 overall

 

Joe Flacco 1st round, 18 overall

 

Matt Ryan 1st round, 3rd overall

 

(Strange how he's being compared to 8 quarterbacks taken in the first round)

 

 

You make a fair point. Since Trent was a 3rd rounder, his expectations are much lower. If worst case scenario is that he becomes a very good backup (which I have no doubts he very easily will be), it is still a very good pick for the Bills.

 

However since he is now a NFL starter, he needs to be compared to starters. On gameday, no one cares where you were drafted.

[JPicc2114]

Flacco is not a blue chip.. im sorry. He plays for a good team. His stats are like worse than Trents...

[San Jose Bills Fan]

You make a fair point. Since Trent was a 3rd rounder, his expectations are much lower. If worst case scenario is that he becomes a very good backup (which I have no doubts he very easily will be), it is still a very good pick for the Bills.

 

However since he is now a NFL starter, he needs to be compared to starters. On gameday, no one cares where you were drafted.

Thank you for deciphering the post just as it was intended. Flbillsfan#1 also made a similar and fair response.

 

I agree that Trent Edwards has to be judged as a starter regardless of where he was chosen.

 

But it needed to be pointed out that at most only four of the quarterbacks on that list would be arguably upgrades over Trent and they were all taken in the first round.

 

We should be pleased so far with what he's given us and what he may yet produce. Trent Edwards is one of the best draft picks we've had in a long time. Does anyone think he'd be selected in the 3rd round today if NFL teams knew that he would play this well?

[San Jose Bills Fan]

For the sake of developing this discussion further and hopefully constructively, I researched all quarterbacks drafted in the 3rd round since 2003. Here's the list.

 

3rd Round Quarterbacks since 2003

2003: David Ragone, Chris Simms

 

2004: Matt Schaub

 

2005: Charlie Frye, Andrew Walter, David Greene

 

2006: Charlie Whitehurst, Brodie Croyle

 

2007: Trent Edwards

 

2008: Kevin O'Connell

[San Jose Bills Fan]

2nd Round Quarterbacks since 2003

 

2003: None

 

2004: None

 

2005: None

 

2006: Kellen Clemens, Tarvaris Jackson

 

2007: Kevin Kolb, John Beck, Drew Stanton

 

2008: Brian Brohm, Chad Henne

[Magox]

Flacco is not a blue chip.. im sorry. He plays for a good team. His stats are like worse than Trents...

I agree!

 

I watched Flacco play on numerous occasions and other than his arm strength, I didn't see anything to me that screamed out anything special.

 

I think his name and the Ravens record is what brought on all the Flacco Hype this year. My guess is next year, the expectations of what people have for him, will be high, and he won't live up to them, then we will see him for what he really is.

 

Average

[Stenbar]

Still believe in TE and support him. Picked Cutler but would take the one guy not on there and his name is Phillup Rivers! The kid seems to have "it" and wanted him when he came out. That being said I belive TE can and will get it done and look for a big step forward this year!!

MOdrak wanted to draft Cutler..Levy took Whitner instead..

[2003Contenders]

MOdrak wanted to draft Cutler..Levy took Whitner instead..

 

 

Where did you hear that? I know they had Cutler rated as their highest QB, but Marv said going into the draft that the team did not want to draft a first round QB, since they wanted to give JP another year.

[dbringer]

Yeah I would take Reeves over Adam Sandler, not sure who Trent looks like.

http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showtopic=73239&hl=

[NewEra]

Cutler, Rodgers, Ryan and Flacco hands down.

Dunno about Quinn, but maybe