The_Dude Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 ELEVEN AND A HALF. Eleven and a half is the ammount of sacks that our D Line of Schobel, Stroud, Kelsay, Denney and Williams gathered this year. TEN. Ten is the number of players in the NFL that had the same or more sacks single handidly than the WHOLE entire Bills D Line including Schobel. TEN. FOUR. Four is the number of sacks that the entire Buffalo Bills defense beat Demarcus Ware in this year on sacks. A whole team got FOUR more sacks than one guy. THREE. Three is the number of teams that DOUBLED our sack total. THREE. Three is the number of teams that we beat in sacks this year... JUST THREE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 ELEVEN AND A HALF. Eleven and a half is the ammount of sacks that our D Line of Schobel, Stroud, Kelsay, Denney and Williams gathered this year. TEN. Ten is the number of players in the NFL that had the same or more sacks single handidly than the WHOLE entire Bills D Line including Schobel. TEN. FOUR. Four is the number of sacks that the entire Buffalo Bills defense beat Demarcus Ware in this year on sacks. A whole team got FOUR more sacks than one guy. THREE. Three is the number of teams that DOUBLED our sack total. THREE. Three is the number of teams that we beat in sacks this year... JUST THREE. ONE. The number assigned to the only moron who posted this today. We all know most of this already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 We really need to draft a TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 ONE. The number assigned to the only moron who posted this today. We all know most of this already. Did you know that???? All of that? I posted this thread at the buffalo Bills MB and people freaked. They didnt know it was that bad over there. Figured Id post it here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 ELEVEN AND A HALF. Eleven and a half is the ammount of sacks that our D Line of Schobel, Stroud, Kelsay, Denney and Williams gathered this year. TEN. Ten is the number of players in the NFL that had the same or more sacks single handidly than the WHOLE entire Bills D Line including Schobel. TEN. FOUR. Four is the number of sacks that the entire Buffalo Bills defense beat Demarcus Ware in this year on sacks. A whole team got FOUR more sacks than one guy. THREE. Three is the number of teams that DOUBLED our sack total. THREE. Three is the number of teams that we beat in sacks this year... JUST THREE. Well, the number don't lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 FOUR. Four is the number of sacks that the entire Buffalo Bills defense beat Demarcus Ware in this year on sacks. A whole team got FOUR more sacks than one guy. interesting note about this fact: Buffalo's D allowed less points than Dallas' (342-365). You'd think that with such a dominating defensive effort by one player, that their defense would be better than Buffalo's in regards to points allowed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 ONE. The number assigned to the only moron who posted this today. We all know most of this already. Come on. My hope is that this info was presented to Jauron in the same exact words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 ONE. The number assigned to the only moron who posted this today. We all know most of this already. It's always so easy to dismiss another, isn't it, rather than to add something to a discussion? Almost all topics discussed here are known, in large degree, by many others yet discussions do ensue. Sure we all know that our defensive line was truly offensive in it's inability to rush the passer, yet the tidbits brought up truly underscored how bad they were. My only disagreement with the original post was that Schobel missed more games than he played and that hurt the Bills heavily. His numbers were weak when he went down, but he was still our best pass rusher and was sorely missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Thanks for the research... I appreciate statistics to see production in black and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 It's always so easy to dismiss another, isn't it, rather than to add something to a discussion? Almost all topics discussed here are known, in large degree, by many others yet discussions do ensue. Sure we all know that our defensive line was truly offensive in it's inability to rush the passer, yet the tidbits brought up truly underscored how bad they were. My only disagreement with the original post was that Schobel missed more games than he played and that hurt the Bills heavily. His numbers were weak when he went down, but he was still our best pass rusher and was sorely missed. Another words, like I said, we all already know...... We have no pass rush. It's yet another way to state the obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckyFillUps Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I think a ROOKIE Defensive End is the the key to a rapid turnaround in our sack totals. Typically, a rookie Defensive End( believe it or not the 2nd or 3rd best DE in a draft class is the one who steps right in and performs) can make a huge impact his 1st year. Greater production can be expected when the top end of the draft class is mostly OLB/DE tweeners that are better suited for the 3-4 alignment. We are so in luck this year!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwws9999 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 interesting note about this fact: Buffalo's D allowed less points than Dallas' (342-365). You'd think that with such a dominating defensive effort by one player, that their defense would be better than Buffalo's in regards to points allowed... dallas's schedule was about 50 times harder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 ONE. The number assigned to the only moron who posted this today. We all know most of this already. I didn't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 We really need to draft a TE. Yes we do - Not with the pick at 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 EIGHT. Eight is the average number a yards a Trent Edwards pass travels in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 ELEVEN AND A HALF. Eleven and a half is the ammount of sacks that our D Line of Schobel, Stroud, Kelsay, Denney and Williams gathered this year. 1) keep ir real. Schobel essentially played in 4 full games and a small part of the 5th. So, lay off his ass. 2) No schitt... like no one realizes that the Bills couldn't get to the QB this year. Everyone thinks by going out and drafting a DE this year, that's gonna make a difference. It aint... Get real. No NFL team generates 50 sacks a season utilizing their front four. They bring the kitchen sink. LBs and DBs. 3 of the top 4 sackers in the league were OLBs . Everyone seems to want to point at the Bills DEs and totally ignoring the Bills below average linebacking. Denney and Mitchell led the Bills with 4 sacks each. Denney started only 11 games and Mitchell's sacks came up the middle. Stroud and his $4M salary managed a pathetic 2 sacks. Poz and Ellison got zero, ... but everyone wants to put all the blame on Kelsay... and he had the same number of sacks as Stroud.... and nobody's calling out Stroud, Poz, or Ellison. Stroud is barely above average... that's it. Bills need somene along side him that's better than him. Plus, Poz would better be served as a backup... stacked up to the elite MLB's around the league he doesn't measure up very well. Bring in Dansby. Ellison is a journeyman backup. Bills should let his ass go, resign Crowell, and draft Cushing. The secondary needs an enforcer at Safety.... unfortumately there's nothing out there... unless Donavin Darius has anything left. Alas... no matter who the team brings in... and they could bring in 7 superstars and it would not matter, the HC is Jauron. Jauron = zero. You need creativity to generate a pass rush. Anyone believe that Jauron has any of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 ONE. The number assigned to the only moron who posted this today. We all know most of this already. ONE. The number of people who are annoying me in this topic. Sorry, i just had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Schobel only played a quarter of the season. They were undefeated in the games he finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson from Gamehendge Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Come on. My hope is that this info was presented to Jauron in the same exact words. He would consider the information for a minute, and respond to you by saying..."Well, it is hard to get sacks in the NFL." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 1) keep ir real. Schobel essentially played in 4 full games and a small part of the 5th. So, lay off his ass.2) No schitt... like no one realizes that the Bills couldn't get to the QB this year. Everyone thinks by going out and drafting a DE this year, that's gonna make a difference. It aint... Get real. No NFL team generates 50 sacks a season utilizing their front four. They bring the kitchen sink. LBs and DBs. 3 of the top 4 sackers in the league were OLBs . Everyone seems to want to point at the Bills DEs and totally ignoring the Bills below average linebacking. Denney and Mitchell led the Bills with 4 sacks each. Denney started only 11 games and Mitchell's sacks came up the middle. Stroud and his $4M salary managed a pathetic 2 sacks. Poz and Ellison got zero, ... but everyone wants to put all the blame on Kelsay... and he had the same number of sacks as Stroud.... and nobody's calling out Stroud, Poz, or Ellison. Stroud is barely above average... that's it. Bills need somene along side him that's better than him. Plus, Poz would better be served as a backup... stacked up to the elite MLB's around the league he doesn't measure up very well. Bring in Dansby. Ellison is a journeyman backup. Bills should let his ass go, resign Crowell, and draft Cushing. The secondary needs an enforcer at Safety.... unfortumately there's nothing out there... unless Donavin Darius has anything left. Alas... no matter who the team brings in... and they could bring in 7 superstars and it would not matter, the HC is Jauron. Jauron = zero. You need creativity to generate a pass rush. Anyone believe that Jauron has any of that? Yeah, I know Schobel played in 4 full and 5 total. So? He got ONE freaking sack in 18 QTRs. Schobel is not what or who he used to be. I like him and I think that Schobel is underrated against the run and overrated against the pass. But, Schobel is not and has not been earing his paycheck. Also, I think Curry with our 1st would be the best way to go to improve our pass rush through a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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