seq004 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 No justice but congrats to Smith and Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 atleast that douche cris carter didn't get in before Andre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 atleast that douche cris carter didn't get in before Andre. agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPeaTear Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 atleast that douche cris carter didn't get in before Andre. i love andre but cris carter is a better receiver than him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 i love andre but cris carter is a better receiver than him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Drane Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I'm setting the early, over-under on his acceptance speech at 41 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 i love andre but cris carter is a better receiver than him take away chris's early career in philly,he spent most of his career in a dome with the vikings...andre played in the cold in buffalo with thurman thomas getting alot of touches....chris was opposite randy moss,and i dont ever remeber the vikings having killer running games...andre has better playoff stats..i think he is ranked 3rd.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 i love andre but cris carter is a better receiver than him Bupkis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 I thought a nice moment was when Bob Hayes's sister spoke and looking back at the great Derrick Thomas and what a tragic loss that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPeaTear Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 take away chris's early career in philly,he spent most of his career in a dome with the vikings...andre played in the cold in buffalo with thurman thomas getting alot of touches....chris was opposite randy moss,and i dont ever remeber the vikings having killer running games...andre has better playoff stats..i think he is ranked 3rd.... true, but cris didnt have randy moss until 98, when he had at least 5 or 6 great seasons before that His QBs before Culpepper were Rich Gannon Wade Wilson Jim McMahon Sean Sailsbury Brad Johnson a 38 year old Warren Moon Randall Cunningham and Jeff George None of which are on that Jim Kelly level and Most of those seasons none of those QBs played all 16 games The fact that they never had killer running games would make it harder for a receiver for the fact they would most likely always be in double coverage. To go in further they both have the same number of career games played at 234. Reed started 217 of those games to Carter's 209 games In his career Carter has 150 more receptions and 43 more receiving TDs Reed played in 7 more playoff games in his career than carter, yet only has 1 more TD than Carter. (9 TDs to carter's 8) In the playoffs Reed had 85 rec for 1230 yds for a 14.5 YPC average Carter had 63 rec for 860 yds for a 13.7 YPC average. Both are great receivers and will both end up in the Hall Of Fame, but I would give the edge to Carter as a better all time receiver. I think now he just leaves a sour taste in everyone's mouth for his terrible, terrible, terrible work on ESPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 take away chris's early career in philly,he spent most of his career in a dome with the vikings...andre played in the cold in buffalo with thurman thomas getting alot of touches....chris was opposite randy moss,and i dont ever remeber the vikings having killer running games...andre has better playoff stats..i think he is ranked 3rd.... yeah--the fact that the Vikes didnt have a killer running game only speaks more about Carters effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdelma Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Yards after catch folks, carter is not even in the same class as #83. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Cold Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I just wish the HALL OF FAMES in all sports would have a clear and concise definition of what it takes to get in. Reed and Carter should both be in no questions asked...are they going to be better 2, 3 10yrs from now when they do get in. Ralphs accomplishments all happened yrs ago with the biggest one happening in the early days of the AFL, why now in 2009 does he get in. Now here is a question Andre Reed or Terrel Owens (in the HOF)...if Owens quit now, not sure of all stats but I now total reception of 800. The media has an infatuation with the guy, so I would say the majority of National media would put Owens in over Reed in a heartbeat. Irvin got into the HALL based on solid stats but moreso based on that his teammates called him as a team leader (which I can not imagine), and kept them loose and together. Owens has the stats but definately in no sense of the word is a leader. It just seems that their are different criteria for different players, Reed was great over the middle and yards after catch, Carter was phenomal on the sidelines and scoring TD's what is more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornerville Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 i love andre but cris carter is a better receiver than him ESPN says thanks for showing how brainwashing works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPeaTear Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I just wish the HALL OF FAMES in all sports would have a clear and concise definition of what it takes to get in. Reed and Carter should both be in no questions asked...are they going to be better 2, 3 10yrs from now when they do get in. Ralphs accomplishments all happened yrs ago with the biggest one happening in the early days of the AFL, why now in 2009 does he get in. Now here is a question Andre Reed or Terrel Owens (in the HOF)...if Owens quit now, not sure of all stats but I now total reception of 800. The media has an infatuation with the guy, so I would say the majority of National media would put Owens in over Reed in a heartbeat. Irvin got into the HALL based on solid stats but moreso based on that his teammates called him as a team leader (which I can not imagine), and kept them loose and together. Owens has the stats but definately in no sense of the word is a leader. It just seems that their are different criteria for different players, Reed was great over the middle and yards after catch, Carter was phenomal on the sidelines and scoring TD's what is more important. Even the Hall Of Fames have "clicks" and different classes. What I mean by this is only the elite get in on their first year of eligibility. PFT has a good article relating to this. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPeaTear Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 ESPN says thanks for showing how brainwashing works If you read my 2nd post you would see I dislike carter on ESPN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I'm quite surprised that neither Reed nor Carter got in. I fugured with two big-time WRs that one of them would've gotten in. Reed's time will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I'm setting the early, over-under on his acceptance speech at 41 minutes. I'll take the over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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