May Day 10 Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Then again, they could pull a fast one and make it any combination of the love quadrangle that's been built up w/ Jack, Swayer & Kate, Juliet. Wouldn't that be something if the bones are Jack and Kate... who were the ones who discovered/investigated them? Thats what seems very interesting to me. It would be kind of creepy/cool if any of the characters unknowingly found their remains during the story.
MattyT Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Don't be so fast to remove Juliet from the series. There's only 17 eps left. She may be absent for a while, but I don't think that was the last we're going to see of her. I refuse to believe that. You may be right.... http://www.tvguide.com/News/Lost-Keeps-Eli...px?rss=keywords
Sketch Soland Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 I just want to say: I LOVE LOST! WHAT A GREAT FRAKKIN' SHOW!
DrDawkinstein Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Desmond was on top of the same pocket of exploding energy as Juliet and it didnt kill him. in fact, it made him more powerful. I'm not so sure Juliet is dead. I am pretty sure, however, that Adam & Eve are Rose & Bernard. which means of course, since this is LOST, that its probably not them, ha. What's interesting is if the explosion transports the group back to 2007, why does it leave Rose & Bernard behind? because they are content? or just because their "destinies" are fine on the island in 1977? By the way Rose acted on the island from day 1, im pretty sure that it's them. she "knew" Bernard was ok, she never wanted to leave the island...
Sketch Soland Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Desmond was on top of the same pocket of exploding energy as Juliet and it didnt kill him. in fact, it made him more powerful. I'm not so sure Juliet is dead. I am pretty sure, however, that Adam & Eve are Rose & Bernard. which means of course, since this is LOST, that its probably not them, ha. What's interesting is if the explosion transports the group back to 2007, why does it leave Rose & Bernard behind? because they are content? or just because their "destinies" are fine on the island in 1977? By the way Rose acted on the island from day 1, im pretty sure that it's them. she "knew" Bernard was ok, she never wanted to leave the island... Yeah, right on this wavelength as well. I expect the unexpected however. "Dead" on Lost is a quavering thing, though. Juliet will be "around" in 6 but in what state? Je ne sais pas.
Ramius Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 You may be right.... http://www.tvguide.com/News/Lost-Keeps-Eli...px?rss=keywords Good to see Juliet back. I'm crossing my fingers that her return will be similar to Desmond's after he got hit with the energy in season 2, in that she wakes up naked in the jungle.
UConn James Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 Doc Jensen's S5 wrap Like King's Carrie, Juliet was a victim of deception — she had been brought to the Island under any number of false pretenses, including the unspoken assumption that she had the freedom to leave at any time. But in the season finale, we saw her finally get the chance to escape her weird prison — and we also got to see her choose to go back. I think this is significant: It is the model, I believe, for every character's heroic arc in Lost. The first time to the Island, you are a victim of circumstances and possibly manipulation. The second time to the Island, you do so freely, as the captain of your fate — as a hero. Juliet may have given us a peek at the essential storyline for each character next season. Born again off the Island, the ex-castaways are all going to choose to come back, hard and heroically — to save the Island and Jacob; to complete the ongoing, unbroken redemption projects of their strange, timeline-bent lives.
linksfiend Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 I'm gonna go back and watch for that.. Actually it's in the part where NotLocke says: "And you have no idea what I've been through..."
Sketch Soland Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 Doc Jensen's S5 wrap Word. I concur. Doc Jensen is pretty good sh--. I always enjoy his commentary.
extrahammer Posted May 22, 2009 Author Posted May 22, 2009 Actually it's in the part where NotLocke says: "And you have no idea what I've been through..." Wow, I went back to EKO's death on youtube, and Yemi, Eko's brother says to Eko when Eko is giving his confession: "You speak to me as if I were your brother." Pretty interesting. Couldn't tell if I heard the trumpet sound identical in this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJBVEouoyhE...feature=related
UConn James Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 I've just been thinking about some of Doc Jensen's theory regarding Jacob's touching certain of the Losties. I'm not so convinced that it will be something where the characters will go back to that point (retaining all their knowledge of things that have happened). I think the touch may just have enabled the time-travel (and to return from the time-travel), especially for the O6. It's also interesting to consider that Jacob was interfering with their lives (or in Locke's case, his death), not allowing the universe to course correct... or actually, now that I think of it, the interference could be the course correction. In this way, we could see his intervention similar to how Desmond saved Charlie those several times. We still have gaps and there's a lot we don't know about Jacob and what he's done even in what we've seen c. 2004. Did Jacob touch Desmond in the jungle (OK, the whole Naked Desmond thing would get a whole lot creepier, but...)? In the flashbacks, Jacob touched Kate, Hurley, Jack, Sayid, Locke, Sawyer, Jin & Sun. Among the other time-travelers, we did not see Jacob touch Juliet or Rose & Bernard. Let me reiterate, tho, that we did not see Jacob touch them. Doesn't mean he didn't. Interesting that Juliet's was the only flashback of all those shown in "The Incident" that didn't have Jacob. They've held back on showing us things before, only to revisit that scene later and provide more info. Perhaps a young Juliet running out of the house meets Jacob. OTOH maybe she wasn't touched b/c she's not returning to 2007 --- which would go along with those of us who think Rose & Bernard are 'Adam & Eve' who also were not touched and not returning to 2007. He didn't touch Faraday, and he didn't touch Miles (again, that we know of). OK, so you're saying, 'Well, what about Sun? She didn't time-travel.' True. But that may be b/c she didn't re-create something from the 815 crash. All the other O6 and Ben were possessing, had done/were doing something from the original crash. Hurley had the guitar case (Charlie), Kate gave away Aaron (Claire), Ben was reading (Hurley), Sayid was in handcuffs (Kate), Jack had a letter (Sawyer), Locke was wearing Christian's shoes. Then again, Locke's body didn't time-travel (perhaps the dead can't). Sun seemed to be set --- she was holding her husband's wedding ring (Rose), yet she 'still had some work to do' according to grunge Christian. Perhaps she didn't meet the requirement. Dunno. This isn't complete yet, but it's a simpler alternative to Doc Jensen's theory. His theory would add a whole new level of confusing and probably consume a lot of time telling how those characters changed anything. I.e. Kate didn't put the toy plane in the NKOTB lunchbox and didn't kill her father, Sayid didn't kill for Ben, Jack doesn't marry Sarah? or he builds a better relationship with his father, Sawyer lets go of his revenge bent and conning, et al., misc. and etc. I just don't think they're going to go such a long route before they get into the "war" that's coming c. 2007. BTW - Lindelof and Cuse have said that the Dharma Initiative group is going to re-enter the picture in S6. There was an article mentioning that the U of Michigan's publicity office hadn't officially approved of its use in the show, but they're now rolling with it and per Darlton, Dharma will play a "significant role" next season. USA Today Link.
UConn James Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Just started re-watching from S1.... I'm see it so differently now. I'm ruminating on the idea that Locke has been 'possessed' by the Man in Black either since the crash or at least since "Tabula Rasa" when Locke first saw the 'monster.' Then again, it's not a simple possession, but it's downloaded his thoughts/events in his life (as we've seen with Smokey) and has incorporated that into playing Locke, or perhaps playing a part of Locke's consciousness. I dunno. There's so many tells that you see in the character now that reflect back to MIB. Things Locke says that have a lot more meaning vis-a-vis the Jacob-MIB scene. Locke knowing exactly when it's going to rain, having so much knowledge of the island.... I just think it's interesting to note that how the Others/Jacob tried to infiltrate the Lostaways, MIB may have done so much more successfully right under our noses. Part of that frustrated man that we all saw all along is a man/entity who's been there at least 250 years. Thoughts?
inkman Posted May 29, 2009 Posted May 29, 2009 I skimmed the thread for some Ilana love but couldn't find any. For those who don't know she bared it all in Rome. Needless to say, NSFW! She may not be everyone's cup of tea, but she can have my babies any day.
extrahammer Posted May 29, 2009 Author Posted May 29, 2009 I've just started re-watching S1. Will probably go through the series a few times before January 2010. Good find Inkman!
UConn James Posted May 30, 2009 Posted May 30, 2009 The further I get along in S1, the more I think Locke (from the start) = MIB. There's a lot that's jumping out now, that no one really knew what to make of before. And I'm also now ruminating that it's been the case since Locke's birth.
Scraps Posted May 30, 2009 Posted May 30, 2009 I skimmed the thread for some Ilana love but couldn't find any. For those who don't know she bared it all in Rome. Needless to say, NSFW! She may not be everyone's cup of tea, but she can have my babies any day. I clicked on your second list and got this. Reported Attack Site! This web site at www.capped.com has been reported as an attack site and has been blocked based on your security preferences. Attack sites try to install programs that steal private information, use your computer to attack others, or damage your system. Some attack sites intentionally distribute harmful software, but many are compromised without the knowledge or permission of their owners.
Assquatch Posted May 31, 2009 Posted May 31, 2009 I clicked on your second list and got this. Reported Attack Site! This web site at www.capped.com has been reported as an attack site and has been blocked based on your security preferences. Attack sites try to install programs that steal private information, use your computer to attack others, or damage your system. Some attack sites intentionally distribute harmful software, but many are compromised without the knowledge or permission of their owners. Same here.
extrahammer Posted May 31, 2009 Author Posted May 31, 2009 Locke as a child picked the knife when Richard visited him. He stabbed Jacob. Richard had a very scared look on his face. Hmmm....
Erik Posted May 31, 2009 Posted May 31, 2009 Locke as a child picked the knife when Richard visited him. He stabbed Jacob. Richard had a very scared look on his face. Hmmm.... A small point of contention...it was actually Ben who did the deed with the knife on Jacob however he got it from nonLocke who seemingly couldn't do the deed himself.
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