Griff28 Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 With his performance today and throughout the year - coupled with the fact Buffalo didn't tender him the $972,000 necessary to keep him around, is embarrassing. Of course, we do have the million dollar speed bump - Ko Simpson. Just another example of organizational ineptness.
Lurker Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 With his performance today and throughout the year - coupled with the fact Buffalo didn't tender him the $972,000 necessary to keep him around, is embarrassing. Of course, we do have the million dollar speed bump - Ko Simpson. Just another example of organizational ineptness. Roscoe's a better PR. So where would you put Leonhard???
VOR Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 What's more embarrassing is bypassing Ngata for Whitner.
BillsObserver Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 It's a close race: Numbers of LA-related threads: 1,245 Number of Jim Leonhard threads: 1,298 No, but seriously, it's easy to say that after watching him succeed with a bunch of pro bowlers around him.
The_Philster Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 thing to remember is....a player who does well in one system can stink in another. Couple of cases in point: John Parella....looked like a bust here in our 3-4 and wound up having a solid career in the 4-3 in San Diego Bryce Paup...a monster in the 3-4 but disappeared when we switched to a 4-3 Regarding Leonard, I didn't think he was much more than average in Buffalo...of course that's about the level I'd have placed Ko Simpson at before his injury as well...and obviously below average since coming back.
RayFinkle Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 Roscoe's a better PR. So where would you put Leonhard??? Ummmm, maybe safety?
Max997 Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 With his performance today and throughout the year - coupled with the fact Buffalo didn't tender him the $972,000 necessary to keep him around, is embarrassing. Of course, we do have the million dollar speed bump - Ko Simpson. Just another example of organizational ineptness. how many more of these Leonhard threads do we need....we get it, he is a good player and the Bills made a mistake letting him go...WE GET IT lets move on
Griff28 Posted January 19, 2009 Author Posted January 19, 2009 thing to remember is....a player who does well in one system can stink in another. Couple of cases in point: John Parella....looked like a bust here in our 3-4 and wound up having a solid career in the 4-3 in San Diego Bryce Paup...a monster in the 3-4 but disappeared when we switched to a 4-3 Regarding Leonard, I didn't think he was much more than average in Buffalo...of course that's about the level I'd have placed Ko Simpson at before his injury as well...and obviously below average since coming back. That's crap. He was more productive here that Simpson has ever been. They looked at a guy who should be good versus a guy who is.
Max997 Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 What's more embarrassing is bypassing Ngata for Whitner. thats the one that continues to bug me, i cant help but think what he would be like on the Bills line your team has trouble stopping the run, there is a run stuffing DT on the board and your team reaches for a SS...didnt make any sense then and makes even less sense now stopping the run starts with the D-line so why on earth would they draft a SS before a DT
Stenbar Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 What's more embarrassing is bypassing Ngata for Whitner. I agree..
Lurker Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 That's crap. He was more productive here that Simpson has ever been. They looked at a guy who should be good versus a guy who is. Good at what? Leonhard's an undersized safety who's a nice put returner. If it wasn't for the punt return game, he'd be invisible...
VOR Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 If the Bills had a semblance of what the Ravens have in the front-7, Leonhard would have looked good in Buffalo as well.
RayFinkle Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 If it wasn't for the punt return game, he'd be invisible... ...do you watch the playoffs?
BillsWatch Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 ...do you watch the playoffs? Not obviously otherwise he'd have seem several OTHER plays he made.
Max997 Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 Yep... you cant be watching too closely then because Leonhard has been playing outstanding for the Ravens
Rico Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 you cant be watching too closely then because Leonhard has been playing outstanding for the RavensIndeed. Jim Leonhard > Lil' Donte.
zow2 Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 All Leonhard does is make plays. He's always around the ball either getting an INT or picking up a fumble or returning a punt. HE did the same stuff for Buffalo even with our crummy front 7. Not sure why he was not resigned. It is stupid. Clearly he's a difference maker.
Lurker Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 you cant be watching too closely then because Leonhard has been playing outstanding for the Ravens Rose colored glasses. He's a replaceable cog in a top-3 defense. For God's sake, even Justin Bannan looks good on the Raven's D....
Tcali Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 That's crap. He was more productive here that Simpson has ever been. They looked at a guy who should be good versus a guy who is. but simpsons worth millions
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