Meanwhile in the rest of the world

[DrFishfinder]

Israel will move with a ground attack . Israel gave Gaza back to Palestine yet they continue to launch rockets. If I were Palestine I would not be looking at all those tanks prepared to move on them , I would also look in the opposite direction . The Navy Seals of Isreal most likely are in Gaza along with a number of other operatives. The real question is will Iran come to the aid of Palestine? Hamas cannot stand against the forces of Israel. There will be much blood shed on both sides, Israel will prevail. Palestine is the front man for Iran and Syria. Look for massive air strikes before any ground attack. Israel of course will not allow reporters in the combat. This will cause the liberal media to take the side of Palestine.

Three words to the Hamas terrorists:

 

Stop the rockets.

[chicot]

Three words to the Hamas terrorists:

 

Stop the rockets.

 

All well and good fishface, but the question is how best to achieve that aim in an acceptable manner.

[Wacka]

All well and good fishface, but the question is how best to achieve that aim in an acceptable manner.

 

Simple- stop firing the rockets.

 

I am so sick of the press not saying that Hamas has ben shooting rockets for weeks before Israel finally did something and not calling the Palis and all Islamofascists cowards for hiding in the middle of civilian areas.

 

Is Israel supposed to just let themselves be destroyed?

[chicot]

Simple- stop firing the rockets.

 

I am so sick of the press not saying that Hamas has ben shooting rockets for weeks before Israel finally did something and not calling the Palis and all Islamofascists cowards for hiding in the middle of civilian areas.

 

Is Israel supposed to just let themselves be destroyed?

 

Destroyed? I don't think there's much chance of Hamas's rockets doing that.

 

What I'm getting at is whether or not the Israeli action will actually achieve the aim of stopping the rockets. I don't think it will. In fact, I think it's pretty likely that Hamas actually wants a ground operation - all it needs to be able to do is survive in order to claim a victory (of sorts).

[KD in CA]

Destroyed? I don't think there's much chance of Hamas's rockets doing that.

 

Yeah, those rockets aren't that bad. Just a minor inconvenience really. Those damn Jews should just STFU and deal with it, right?

 

Or do you have a suggestion for how to make Hamas stop in an "acceptable manner"?

[chicot]

Yeah, those rockets aren't that bad. Just a minor inconvenience really. Those damn Jews should just STFU and deal with it, right?

 

Or do you have a suggestion for how to make Hamas stop in an "acceptable manner"?

 

Never said that they were just a minor inconvenience. Obviously, they can cause death and injury and are terrifying to those affected by them. Nevertheless, there's no chance they will destroy Israel.

 

What Israel needs to do is what it has always needed to. Obey international law, dismantle their illegal settlements and withdraw from all occupied territories and allow the establishment of a viable Palestinian state. In the long term, the biggest threat to Israel is not terrorism but simple demographics. Sooner or later, the Palestinian population in Israel and the West Bank is going to be the majority. At which point, the Palestinians can simply say "fine, you won't give us our land back. Annexe the West Bank and give us the vote then."

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Simple- stop firing the rockets.

 

I am so sick of the press not saying that Hamas has ben shooting rockets for weeks before Israel finally did something and not calling the Palis and all Islamofascists cowards for hiding in the middle of civilian areas.

 

Is Israel supposed to just let themselves be destroyed?

 

Tip off the media that those Hamas rockets run on fossil fuels and therefore contribute to Global Warming , then maybe Hamas will get some negative press

[KD in CA]

I hope he doesn't mean grapefruit!

 

 

DEATH TO ALL JUICE!!!

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Never said that they were just a minor inconvenience. Obviously, they can cause death and injury and are terrifying to those affected by them. Nevertheless, there's no chance they will destroy Israel.

 

What Israel needs to do is what it has always needed to. Obey international law, dismantle their illegal settlements and withdraw from all occupied territories and allow the establishment of a viable Palestinian state. In the long term, the biggest threat to Israel is not terrorism but simple demographics. Sooner or later, the Palestinian population in Israel and the West Bank is going to be the majority. At which point, the Palestinians can simply say "fine, you won't give us our land back. Annexe the West Bank and give us the vote then."

 

Appeasement never works. Only when Israel shakes off the fetters of international public opinion and destroys its enemies completely will peace reign in the middle east.

[OCinBuffalo]

In all war, throughout history, I can think of 2 examples of when there has been peace without victory first. So let's see, that's about 0.0001% of the time peace without victory actually happens. (Disclaimer: It's not war if one side isn't shooting back, that's simply murder, or genocide, etc. Although our socialist friends will claim that this qualifies as war, as they have so many times in the past, that's BS.)

 

But with so many ignorant of history, or busy trying to rewrite it, here and elsewhere, I suppose it's no big surprise that somehow these same idiots think that all Israel's problems will be solved if they simply stop fighting.

 

Worse, there's a fundamental misunderstanding of war here and elsewhere that approaches childish, or better, "A-team" like. War means automatic and heavy weapons, and firing those within 1k of a civilian area almost guarantees civilian deaths, even if you are trying to prevent them. The "A-team" mentality somehow assumes that those weapons can be fired 10 feet from each other and nobody will die, or even get hit, and that the whole thing stops because a barrel being used for cover falls over/it's time for a commercial.

 

Also, the civilians who condone and support Hamas and Hezbollah are not innocent. It's no different than the laws we have against complicity/being and accessory in a crime. And when their children are inevitably killed, they have no one to blame but themselves. If they allow rockets to be fired right next to their homes, right next to their children, thus making their real estate a military target, then they have to suffer the consequences of that targeting.

 

To put it another way: If you live in relatively populated area, ask yourself, would you let some idiot fire a weapon near your property, for any reason? While your kids were around? If you did, wouldn't your neighbors do something about it? If not, wouldn't you expect that sooner or later some neighborhood kid would catch a round? Reality=you'd be calling the cops in a heartbeat, and if they refused to do something about it, you'd go down their yourself and sort the f'er out. You would do it, even if you feared that your crazy-ass neighbor would come after you because: you aren't a coward, and you care about your kids. Or maybe you are a coward and expect somebody else to do your fighting for you? In that case you better be giving to your local police charities and supporting our troops.

 

"But it's not their fault/what can they do"? They can stand up against these terrorists, and stop being cowards. If they choose cowardice, then they are also choosing hot lead raining down on their street. It's really that simple. And if they aren't cowards, but instead are choosing to accept, or even support, those rockets being fired from their street, then again, they are not innocent and have no claim to any relief from anyone. And no, this is not the same as what happened on 9/11, because we weren't launching rockets at Afghanistan from Battery Park.