todd Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 Will the same people who want DJ fired complain when the Bills spend another 3 years rebuilding? Don't fool yourself. It will take that long, no matter what your hopes are. Miami and Atlanta are exceptions to the rule, and if you are hoping for a quick turnaround you should be smart and temper your expectations. This is true, and even more true in a division with the Patriots and Miami w/ Parcells. So when the Bills go another two years without making the playoffs, no bitching.
San-O Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 Will the same people who want DJ fired complain when the Bills spend another 3 years rebuilding? Don't fool yourself. It will take that long, no matter what your hopes are. Miami and Atlanta are exceptions to the rule, and if you are hoping for a quick turnaround you should be smart and temper your expectations. This is true, and even more true in a division with the Patriots and Miami w/ Parcells. So when the Bills go another two years without making the playoffs, no bitching. If they fire him will you stop posting?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 Will the same people who want DJ fired complain when the Bills spend another 3 years rebuilding? Don't fool yourself. It will take that long, no matter what your hopes are. Miami and Atlanta are exceptions to the rule, and if you are hoping for a quick turnaround you should be smart and temper your expectations. This is true, and even more true in a division with the Patriots and Miami w/ Parcells. So when the Bills go another two years without making the playoffs, no bitching. Miami and Atlanta are NOT exceptions. If anything, those kinds of turnarounds are the norm in the NFL today.
Kelso_Helmet Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 Will the same people who want DJ fired complain when the Bills spend another 3 years rebuilding? Don't fool yourself. It will take that long, no matter what your hopes are. Miami and Atlanta are exceptions to the rule, and if you are hoping for a quick turnaround you should be smart and temper your expectations. This is true, and even more true in a division with the Patriots and Miami parcells. So when the Bills go another two years without making the playoffs, no bitching. Baby steps. Yeah, the step backward that was the Jauron regime was painful But the prospect watching this team fall short of the playoff next year, yet show progress? This has been the MOST frustrating season ever as a Bills fan. It's one thing to watch players not make plays...but it's another to watch a coaching staff like Jauron's continue to sh*t the bed. I'll take being in recovery mode over watching this disaster continue to play out.
Max997 Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 new coaching staff does not always mean another 3 years of rebuilding, i hate when people just want to accept that no matter what happens, it cant be any worse then another 3 years of jauron
Spiderweb Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 Will the same people who want DJ fired complain when the Bills spend another 3 years rebuilding? Don't fool yourself. It will take that long, no matter what your hopes are. Miami and Atlanta are exceptions to the rule, and if you are hoping for a quick turnaround you should be smart and temper your expectations. This is true, and even more true in a division with the Patriots and Miami w/ Parcells. So when the Bills go another two years without making the playoffs, no bitching. Go check out Miami.....nuff said Question is, will it happen fast enough and will Ralph open his wallet for some talent, and lastly will we finally get some immediate impact help form this years draft?
The Dean Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 Will the same people who want DJ fired complain when the Bills spend another 3 years rebuilding? Don't fool yourself. It will take that long, no matter what your hopes are. Miami and Atlanta are exceptions to the rule, and if you are hoping for a quick turnaround you should be smart and temper your expectations. This is true, and even more true in a division with the Patriots and Miami w/ Parcells. So when the Bills go another two years without making the playoffs, no bitching. There is no reason to "rebuild". The talent on this team is being squandered. A few additions and a better HC/OC are all that is needed, IMO. If they rebuild, they hired the wrong coach.
Frez Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 Will the same people who want DJ fired complain when the Bills spend another 3 years rebuilding? Don't fool yourself. It will take that long, no matter what your hopes are. Miami and Atlanta are exceptions to the rule, and if you are hoping for a quick turnaround you should be smart and temper your expectations. This is true, and even more true in a division with the Patriots and Miami w/ Parcells. So when the Bills go another two years without making the playoffs, no bitching. Todd, are you happy with this inept coaching staff? Will you continue to support a team that is outmatched every week for the years to come with Dick as the head coach? 0-6 in the AFC East man.................. Come on Todd....................Dick doesn't belong here.
Bmwolf21 Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 Miami and Atlanta are NOT exceptions. If anything, those kinds of turnarounds are the norm in the NFL today. I'd have to agree. Free agency should be the Great Equalizer, and the Bills already have some talent in a lot of areas. This team isn't like the Dolphins of last year or this year's Lions - there are holes in the lineup, but the team is not that far off in terms of player talent. Bring in a good HC who is a strong talent evaluator, make a couple good draft picks and a couple key FA signings and there is no reason why they can't add 3-4 wins next year. Then all you need is a HC and staff that can get the !@#$ out of their own way on gameday, and we're all set. EDIT: The Dean beat me to it.
1billsfan Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 Will the same people who want DJ fired complain when the Bills spend another 3 years rebuilding? Don't fool yourself. It will take that long, no matter what your hopes are. Miami and Atlanta are exceptions to the rule, and if you are hoping for a quick turnaround you should be smart and temper your expectations. This is true, and even more true in a division with the Patriots and Miami w/ Parcells. So when the Bills go another two years without making the playoffs, no bitching. So you scold Bills fans who wanted Dick fired AFTER you say he should be fired? Sorry Todd, but I think the season has fried your brain.
SDS Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 Will the same people who want DJ fired complain when the Bills spend another 3 years rebuilding? Don't fool yourself. It will take that long, no matter what your hopes are. Miami and Atlanta are exceptions to the rule, and if you are hoping for a quick turnaround you should be smart and temper your expectations. This is true, and even more true in a division with the Patriots and Miami w/ Parcells. So when the Bills go another two years without making the playoffs, no bitching. Yawn. New argument please. Like we were soooo close to the playoffs this year? If you can't see the game in game out bufoonery that comes from our sidelines then don't put your lack of observation on us. EVERY GAME features calls that even the kiss-ass announcers have to discuss WTF they were thinking.
KD in CA Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 Will the same people who want DJ fired complain when the Bills spend another 3 years rebuilding? Don't fool yourself. It will take that long, no matter what your hopes are. Miami and Atlanta are exceptions to the rule, and if you are hoping for a quick turnaround you should be smart and temper your expectations. This is true, and even more true in a division with the Patriots and Miami w/ Parcells. So when the Bills go another two years without making the playoffs, no bitching. Well first of all, they aren't going to make the playoffs anyway if Dick is still coaching, because he has NO IDEA WHAT HE IS DOING and will continue to singlehandedly cost Buffalo wins. Second, who says they need to rebuild? They are a young team and aside from the obvious holes (C, DE, WR, TE), what they mostly need is a head coach who is not completely out to lunch. I am certainly willing to take my chances on whoever we get.
silvermike Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 Length of time with current team before first playoff berth: Bill Belichick: 2 yearsTom Coughlin: 2 years Mike Tomlin: 1 year Norv Turner: 1 year Mike McCarthy: 2 years Ken Whisenhunt: 2 years Eric Mangini: 1 year Sean Payton: 1 year Lovie Smith: 2 years John Fox: 2 years Jack Del Rio: 3 years Marvin Lewis: 3 years Tony Sparano: 1 year Mike Smith: 1 year John Harbaugh: 1 year (probably) Herm Edwards: 1 year Andy Reid: 2 years Jon Gruden: 1 year Tony Dungy: 1 year Jeff Fisher: 6 years Wade Phillips: 1 year Mike Shanahan: 2 years Mike Holmgren: 1 year This isn't a cherry-picked list. That's every active head coach in the NFL with a playoff appearance with his current team. One of them failed to do it in the first three years - and those years were in a very different league in the early 90s and a team that moved.
thewildrabbit Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 There is no reason to "rebuild". The talent on this team is being squandered. A few additions and a better HC/OC are all that is needed, IMO. If they rebuild, they hired the wrong coach. Totally agree When the owner stated that this team is lacking talent its not on the field that is lacking,the talent that is lacking is the coaches on the sidelines and in the booth those
Ray Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 The 90% reason Atlanta and Miami got turned around was QB play. Both of those teams starting QBs from last year are not even playing now. Coaching helps, but who do you want brought in? Face it, Cowher, Billick are NOT coming here as Ralph is not giving them complete control of the team and paying them 7-10M/year. So we are back at square one........again. Not the biggest fan of Jauron at all but I think a change is re-starting everything over again.
NicholasCal1 Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 maybe a new philosophy will wake this team up.jauron is not a leader. the players love him because he doesn't get in their faces when they mess up or don't work hard enough.he is too soft on his players.maybe if they feared their jobs a little bit and maybe if the coach is tougher during traning camp will the team toughen up. a weird thought just popped into my head.maybe marv levy sugested to ralph to hire jauron knowing he would fail as a head coach. don't forget marv lobbied for the head coaching job and ralph gave him gm instead.probably not but just a thought
John from Riverside Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 Todd, are you happy with this inept coaching staff? Will you continue to support a team that is outmatched every week for the years to come with Dick as the head coach? 0-6 in the AFC East man.................. Come on Todd....................Dick doesn't belong here. guys.....I know that we are all upset but lets not turn on each other....right in Todd's post he says that DJ should be fired.... Now as far as the rebiulding.....it may not take that long.....we do have some nice pieces in place and a decent draft spot.
silvermike Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 Coaching helps, but who do you want brought in? Face it, Cowher, Billick are NOT coming here as Ralph is not giving them complete control of the team and paying them 7-10M/year. So we are back at square one........again. Not the biggest fan of Jauron at all but I think a change is re-starting everything over again Well, if we're not going to improve our players ever, and we're never going to hire a good coach, Jauron is probably pretty good at keeping 7-9 from becoming 3-13.
VOR Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 As I said in another post, the Dols' (and Falcons') success is largely due to QB play. Get even an average performance from Trent during the 5 losses in which he played half or all of the game and the Bills win the division. The big question is, is Trent the guy? Or do they bring in someone else?
1billsfan Posted December 28, 2008 Posted December 28, 2008 The 90% reason Atlanta and Miami got turned around was QB play. The GMs, coaching, running games and defenses were the other 10% that got them turned around? Yeah ok...
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