Flbillsfan#1 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 JP Losman was a huge booster of the city of Buffalo, and we all loved him for that and wished he would be successful. Unfortunately it didn;t work out because you still have to do the job you were hired to do. I'm sure Dick Jauron is a great guy. Salt of the earth. Do I think he's a competent NFL coach? Have to say no. I've seen too much in the past three years that says he's in over is head. Anyone can have a bad string of luck, but things even out after a while. If you are a good coach and you have a few years to work, your true record will emerge. Sadly, we see what Dick Jauron's record and it isn't good. When we hired him it was with the hope that he had some bad breaks with some bad teams and owners, and that he was going to shine through in Buffalo. Well, it didn't happen. I agree that WGR is vulgar. They live to whip up controversy, and their hosts and callers cross the line. That doesn't change the fact that Dick needs to be replaced. On the other hand, whoever Ralph hires will likely fail too because the Bills, as they are put together right now, are flawed from the top down. PTR Good point about JP. The names Jauron has been called are NOTHING compared to the names & insults JP has endured because he failed to live up to expectations in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Unfortunately, being a great guy isn't all there is to it. Few men that come out of boot camp would say that their drill sgt was a great guy, someone they just loved to death, and a guy that made coming to work an immense joy. But, a drill sgt's job isn't to be every recruits' best friend. His job is to rip away egos and forge a team in the most competitive job there is -- losing is literal death. The NFL is not life and death and I am not comparing football to the military. The point I am making is that successfully coaching football is about building a team, sacrifice, and unwavering focus on the ultimate mission. Crushing young men's dreams of playing in the NFL or, more precisely, playing on an NFL champion team is a heartless and ruthless job, and not something one can be particularly "nice" about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 JP Losman was a huge booster of the city of Buffalo, and we all loved him for that and wished he would be successful. Unfortunately it didn;t work out because you still have to do the job you were hired to do. I'm sure Dick Jauron is a great guy. Salt of the earth. Do I think he's a competent NFL coach? Have to say no. I've seen too much in the past three years that says he's in over is head. Anyone can have a bad string of luck, but things even out after a while. If you are a good coach and you have a few years to work, your true record will emerge. Sadly, we see what Dick Jauron's record and it isn't good. When we hired him it was with the hope that he had some bad breaks with some bad teams and owners, and that he was going to shine through in Buffalo. Well, it didn't happen. I agree that WGR is vulgar. They live to whip up controversy, and their hosts and callers cross the line. That doesn't change the fact that Dick needs to be replaced. On the other hand, whoever Ralph hires will likely fail too because the Bills, as they are put together right now, are flawed from the top down. PTR Jauron has had some bad breaks with bad teams and owners, but what makes you think Buffalo was a bed of roses? Most of our problems stem from the offensive side of the ball. Failure to bring in a quality OC has stalled the development of a young and promising team. I just don't know how much of the blame should fall on Jauron for decisions involving the OC position and how much of the blame goes on the GM or owner Ralph Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoring is not hardy Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I live in the town where Dick went to high school and played football, baseball and basketball. Needless to say his athletic ability is legendary in the Town of Swampscott, MA. I have talked to numerous people who know him, grew up with him or went to school playing against him. What I've learned is he is originally from the Mid-West. He would give the shirt off his back for anyone and his morals are impeccable. His high School team won 33 straight games with him playing. Joe Paterno flew in on a helicopter to recruit him. He chose to go to Yale. He scored 1550 on his SAT and would never brag about it. After his football season was over, instead of going out with the boys and celebrating after the last game, he would go home and wake up and be on the basketball court in the morning. He was drafted by the Yankees and could have played in the NBA. Every one tells me he is the most genuine person you could ever meet. It makes sense that he's always taking the blame for the mistakes but never boasted when they were 4-0 and said "aren't I great". He'd shovel your car out of your driveway. This is the kind of guy that Buffalo loves. All these qualities don't necessarily equate to him being a great head coach or even the future of the Bills. I wish he was though. That's why these guys played hard against Denver, to save his job. His one fault may be that he is too nice to be a head coach. But I think it is disgraceful some of the names I've read on these boards directed at him. It's almost comical that the people who call him names haven't accomplished a fraction of what this guy has in his life, and they sit in their dorito stained armchairs drinking Genny calling up WGR saying he looks like the grim reaper. Why don't you name callers formulate a thoughtful argument instead of resorting to play ground antics. Thank You! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Friends Call Me Tebucky Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Great guy, but it's a business. When he gets canned I don't think he deserves to be mocked like Williams and Mularkey have been. You can't argue that his record is good, but getting to 7-9 with the garbage team he had in 2006 and the injury-riddled group he had in 2007 was actually pretty damn impressive. That being said, there are coaches that can get you to a certain level and no higher...Schottenheimer and Phillips are a couple examples. Jauron seems to fit that mold too...he make a bad team respectable, but he can't make an average team good. Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Great guy, but it's a business. When he gets canned I don't think he deserves to be mocked like Williams and Mularkey have been. You can't argue that his record is good, but getting to 7-9 with the garbage team he had in 2006 and the injury-riddled group he had in 2007 was actually pretty damn impressive. That being said, there are coaches that can get you to a certain level and no higher...Schottenheimer and Phillips are a couple examples. Jauron seems to fit that mold too...he make a bad team respectable, but he can't make an average team good. Time to move on. I've been hearing stories circulating concerning Bill Cowher. My bro tells me stories all the time though, I think he dreams some of it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cale Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I live in the town where Dick went to high school and played football, baseball and basketball. Needless to say his athletic ability is legendary in the Town of Swampscott, MA. I have talked to numerous people who know him, grew up with him or went to school playing against him. What I've learned is he is originally from the Mid-West. He would give the shirt off his back for anyone and his morals are impeccable. His high School team won 33 straight games with him playing. Joe Paterno flew in on a helicopter to recruit him. He chose to go to Yale. He scored 1550 on his SAT and would never brag about it. After his football season was over, instead of going out with the boys and celebrating after the last game, he would go home and wake up and be on the basketball court in the morning. He was drafted by the Yankees and could have played in the NBA. Every one tells me he is the most genuine person you could ever meet. It makes sense that he's always taking the blame for the mistakes but never boasted when they were 4-0 and said "aren't I great". He'd shovel your car out of your driveway. This is the kind of guy that Buffalo loves. All these qualities don't necessarily equate to him being a great head coach or even the future of the Bills. I wish he was though. That's why these guys played hard against Denver, to save his job. His one fault may be that he is too nice to be a head coach. But I think it is disgraceful some of the names I've read on these boards directed at him. It's almost comical that the people who call him names haven't accomplished a fraction of what this guy has in his life, and they sit in their dorito stained armchairs drinking Genny calling up WGR saying he looks like the grim reaper. Why don't you name callers formulate a thoughtful argument instead of resorting to play ground antics. Everything I've heard/read about Jauron says he's great human being. I probably would want him as a close friend. I have many close friends. I don't want any of them as my head coach of the Buffalo Bills. I believe great people and great coaches are not necessarily the same thing. Notable exceptions are Marv Levy and Tony Dungy. I'm not sure Jauron as a human being/HC combo is in their class. C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Jauron has had some bad breaks with bad teams and owners, but what makes you think Buffalo was a bed of roses? Most of our problems stem from the offensive side of the ball. Failure to bring in a quality OC has stalled the development of a young and promising team. I just don't know how much of the blame should fall on Jauron for decisions involving the OC position and how much of the blame goes on the GM or owner Ralph Wilson. Well his game management in atrocious. His game preparation isn't too hot either seeing how by his own admission he was unprepared for some games. After 6-7 years coaching, your true record emerges, and his is not that good. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 In my opinion what Jauron needs are some more advisers / assistant coaches with more experience. Bring in some older coaches who do not have the drive to do 80-100 work weeks but will serve as sounding board / review panel and team will make remarkable changes. Coaching is 90% hard work and 10% inspiration; the coaching staff works hard enough. They need more inspiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Drane Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 What's the shelf life like on Funions? Do they last long enough for you to stock up in your underground bunker with all that silver? Not only that, but even the stale ones can be rolled in metal shavings and used as a light source. And when things get really boring during nuclear winter, you and the ladies can have a nice game of ring toss. On Jauron....I like him, I think he COULD take a team to the superbowl, but he just doesn't swing enough. It seems when things are going well, he thrives. Improvisation just isn't his strong suit. If he is gone, I understand. If he is here, I am ok with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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