dave mcbride Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 “What is (Bills chief operating officer ) Russ Brandon doing on the road, trying to parade around as a football guy and pretend he knows what he is looking at? Look at his contracts — he can’t even take care of business in his own field. What makes him think he can evaluate? He’s a bean counter. He has no business pretending he knows talent.” http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+W...udibles2324.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Wow. Simply wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 A creditless quote probably by Jerry Sullvian. Wippy wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I guess I wouldn't put too much credit in this alleged scout's comment since he clearly doesn't know much about Brandon, or his past or his role with the Bills since he used the term "bean counter". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 [This is an automated response] Weird timing for the quote, especially when in aggregate this has been one of the better offseasons for Bills' upper echelon in about a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 "What is (Bills chief operating officer ) Russ Brandon doing on the road, trying to parade around as a football guy and pretend he knows what he is looking at? Look at his contracts — he can't even take care of business in his own field. What makes him think he can evaluate? He's a bean counter. He has no business pretending he knows talent." http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+W...udibles2324.htm Brandon made it quite clear that he is indeed not a "football guy" and thats why those duties are handled by Modrak and Guy. What a typically stupid commentary by PFW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Brandon made it quite clear that he is indeed not a "football guy" and thats why those duties are handled by Modrak and Guy. What a typically stupid commentary by PFW Yes, it's clear that this team is on the way up in the NFL. The off-season last year was supposed to put Buffalo into the playoffs. Instead, we're right back where we were after 06 and 07. Brandon is not on par with any decent GM in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Yes, it's clear that this team is on the way up in the NFL. The off-season last year was supposed to put Buffalo into the playoffs. Instead, we're right back where we were after 06 and 07. Brandon is not on par with any decent GM in the league. Going out on a limb huh? Are the players Bills added in '08 offseason the primary reason that this team is not in the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Yes, it's clear that this team is on the way up in the NFL. The off-season last year was supposed to put Buffalo into the playoffs. Instead, we're right back where we were after 06 and 07. Brandon is not on par with any decent GM in the league. Your "GM" of the Bills is Brandon/Modrak/Guy not simply Brandon. I'm not saying anything about whether they've done a great job or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Yes, it's clear that this team is on the way up in the NFL. The off-season last year was supposed to put Buffalo into the playoffs. Instead, we're right back where we were after 06 and 07. Brandon is not on par with any decent GM in the league. He's not, but he helped deliver the personnel...which, all by itself, doesn't guarantee a playoff appearance. The on-field "generals" are responsible for taking that personnel to the playoffs, not Brandon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOfTheRockpile Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Can we merge this thread with the other one on the exact same topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJ91 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 “What is (Bills chief operating officer ) Russ Brandon doing on the road, trying to parade around as a football guy and pretend he knows what he is looking at? Look at his contracts — he can’t even take care of business in his own field. What makes him think he can evaluate? He’s a bean counter. He has no business pretending he knows talent.” http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+W...udibles2324.htm Here's what is written about these nuggets from around the NFL: The following quotes are from NFL scouts, coaches and front-office personnel, speaking on the condition of anonymity. Wow, what great sources! What the hell keeps Pro Football Weekly.com from completely making this crap up?? "speaking on the condition of anonymity"....isn't that nice? Well I heard from an expert source, speaking on the condition of anonymity of course, that both Bill Cowher and Scott Pioli are coming to Buffalo to replace that idiot Russ Brandon and his idiot coach DJ next season. There, I now have as much credibility backing up my story as PFW.com has. What ever happened to real reporting in the media?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Going out on a limb huh? Are the players Bills added in '08 offseason the primary reason that this team is not in the playoffs? no, its the ones they didn't add! /tongue in cheek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLynchTrain Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 You see the quote on Lawyer: “(Falcons S) Lawyer Milloy has had a Pro Bowl-caliber season. He’s very instinctive. He’s got a great knack for the ball. He’s playing great football.” Pretty interesting, DWI aside. Kind of interesting how our secondary would have looked if we had kept him and Jimmy L. Of course we probably wouldn't be able to keep Scott (who's spot Lawyer interestingly took in Atlanta) and Wendling (great Spec. Teamer). And I know a lot of you weren't too high on Jimmy, but I thought he was definitely great depth, and he's playing pretty well in Baltimore as a safety and punt returner. And of course, anybody can play well next to Ed Reed. I guess I was just looking for a little nostalgia with the Lawyer comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLynchTrain Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Also remember some of the negative comments are probably made by divisional rival scouts trying to cause more problems for the teams in question. And I'm sure a few of the disparaging comments are from scouts that told their teams to pass up on the player in question, and are now trying to find any way possible to cover up their tracks and make the picks they advised look better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 Here's what is written about these nuggets from around the NFL: The following quotes are from NFL scouts, coaches and front-office personnel, speaking on the condition of anonymity. Wow, what great sources! What the hell keeps Pro Football Weekly.com from completely making this crap up?? "speaking on the condition of anonymity"....isn't that nice? Well I heard from an expert source, speaking on the condition of anonymity of course, that both Bill Cowher and Scott Pioli are coming to Buffalo to replace that idiot Russ Brandon and his idiot coach DJ next season. There, I now have as much credibility backing up my story as PFW.com has. What ever happened to real reporting in the media?? It's actually a pretty good feature. I've come across some good stuff there over the past couple of years that proved to be true. It's anonymous so that people can be candid! Also, journalism is built on anonymous sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABills08 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Say whatever you want about the validity of the quote. If you don't think this is the general sentiment around the NFL, you are crazy. It is pretty embarrassing for an organization that built a strong reputation on talent evaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 Going out on a limb huh? Are the players Bills added in '08 offseason the primary reason that this team is not in the playoffs? I don't disagree with your reaction, but maybe the person is referring to the contract that was signed round about week 6 of the 08 season ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Your "GM" of the Bills is Brandon/Modrak/Guy not simply Brandon. I'm not saying anything about whether they've done a great job or not. It's hard to evaluate Guy and Modrak, because we're not sure they're as involved in the decision making progress. They may be competent, but their role is to assist the GM and supply him with information regarding other pros or draft eligible players. They are not the decision making guys, which is why a GM is necessary to bring everyone together and get the team to success. I think people don't understand the a Pro Personnel Director and College Scouting Director assist in maintaining the GM's vision of the team. They should have input into which players are acquired, but it's on the GM to guide all the personnel decisions. Brandon has no experience whatsoever in that. None. There is no NFL franchise that exists with this front office set up. The titles may not be the same, but every team either has a decision maker or a bonafide team like NE does with Pioli and Belichick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I don't disagree with your reaction, but maybe the person is referring to the contract that was signed round about week 6 of the 08 season ... Highly doubtful, as to me the quote clearly slams his player personnel skills, not the judgment of the deadweight on the sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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