KOKBILLS Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I am a numbers guy, and for me number dont lie. Fact Dick JOuran is a careel losing coach. Fact 3 soon to be 7-9 seasons in Buffalo. Fact- a offense and defense that ranks in the bottom 10 of the league. Fact a starting Wr with only 4 td 's this season , and a number 2 receiver who had a career day with 9 catches. how low are our expectations. Fact- a 90 year old owner who shouldnt be the owner any more. Fact. Miami and Atlanta have turned around their team in 1 year, cant Buffalo do the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 It all comes down to QB play......that is a lot more important than coaching. Jauron was a good coach when he had a QB playing well and was 5-1 this season. Nobody is a good coach with JP Losman at QB. NO coach in this league wins with that guy. Jauron very likely will be the coach next year. The reason the Dolphins and the Falcons turned it around this year is because of te QB......do you really think the Dolphins win more than 2 games with Beck at QB? Really? Their best offseason move was picking up Pennington as QB. Cam Cameron would be in the running for coach of the year this year if he was still the coach there. Are any of Atlanta's QBs from last year playing this year? How is Harrington doing this year? I thought so!!! It comes down to the players and most importantly QB play. If the QB is very good the team will be good. I suppose Jauron threw three INTs vs te Browns and missed a makeable FG. Jauron is not the best coach around and I certinaly know that but he is basically like 25 of 32 HCs in the league and average. The league is full of mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 It all comes down to QB play......that is a lot more important than coaching. Jauron was a good coach when he had a QB playing well and was 5-1 this season. Nobody is a good coach with JP Losman at QB. NO coach in this league wins with that guy. Jauron very likely will be the coach next year. The reason the Dolphins and the Falcons turned it around this year is because of te QB......do you really think the Dolphins win more than 2 games with Beck at QB? Really? Their best offseason move was picking up Pennington as QB. Cam Cameron would be in the running for coach of the year this year if he was still the coach there. Are any of Atlanta's QBs from last year playing this year? How is Harrington doing this year? I thought so!!! It comes down to the players and most importantly QB play. If the QB is very good the team will be good. I suppose Jauron threw three INTs vs te Browns and missed a makeable FG. Jauron is not the best coach around and I certinaly know that but he is basically like 25 of 32 HCs in the league and average. The league is full of mediocrity. So now it's the Leagues fault that Jauron is a Career loser? Keep the excuses coming...I'm getting a kick out of this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 He was coach of the year one year. Was it the leagues fault Belicheck was a complete loser until..... wait Tom Brady took over!!! Maybe that had something to do with his coaching genius. He and Jauron have essentially the same record when he does not have Brady as QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basskik11 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Lots o chatter that with Kiffen leaving and Gruden winning only with Dungy's players, maybe Chucky will be looking for a job at seasons end if the playoffs are not attained in Tampa. These last two December swoons not so good. How bout Chucky??? OH MY GOD! THAT WOULD KICK A$$!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I think all this talk is moot until something changes at the top. We need an independent GM that knows talent and can say "no" to Ralph. Donahoe was the independent part. Too bad he had all the skill of a dartboard when choosing talent. Until then it will be an endless parade of coaches, coordinators, and QB's, and an endless string of 7-9 seasons. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 He was coach of the year one year.Was it the leagues fault Belicheck was a complete loser until..... wait Tom Brady took over!!! Maybe that had something to do with his coaching genius. He and Jauron have essentially the same record when he does not have Brady as QB. Belichick looks to be doing pretty well this year without Brady. Last I looked the Patriots were above the Bills in the standings this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I would take Gruden in a heartbeat. I think his offensive approach is ideal to our personnel - though our lineman might need to thin up a bit. The guy won in Oakland!! In Oakland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I heard Greeny on Mike and Mike this morning claim that he thinks the Jets might get rid of both Favre and Mangini. With that being said, if it happens, does Mangini enter our discussions as a new coach if Jauron gets tossed? Thoughts? No, not in a million years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I love John Gruden. However, I don't think he is going anywhere. Unfortunately though, he is exactly what the Bills need. A no-nonsense, intense, innovative coach with a burning desire to win and a proven track record for success. If we could only be so lucky... he also likes to manipulate his QBs, and he needs a lot of them. He would probably bring in Garcia as his QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Not only NO! but He*l NO! We would be gaining nothing that we don't already have, and if anyone can make Jauron seem colorful it is Mangini. I have never seen a man in his 30's act like a corpse as much as Mangini does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I would take Gruden in a heartbeat. I think his offensive approach is ideal to our personnel - though our lineman might need to thin up a bit. The guy won in Oakland!! In Oakland! I doubt he would come here. He's already met his crazy-old-fart-owner quota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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