UBinVA Posted December 21, 2008 Posted December 21, 2008 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/21...g-middle-class/ The only way the Obama/Biden admin will achieve this is by taking the upper and upper middle class down into middle class status. The socialist model wants everyone in society to be the "Middle Class" with only the government bureaucrats and their ilk to be the only power brokers and elites. This is classic Marxism and we better wake up America. The constitution is one of limited government, not a government that seeks to control all aspects of our existence. I will take decades of conservative government (Not Bush's form a Government) to undo the damage that will be caused by this future administration and the last years of Bush's. Let's not be fooled by the "Global Warming" Alarmists which seek to profoundly change our economy and life style based on bogus facts and world order politics. Please visit the Heritage Foundation for intelligent information on the constitution and conservative values and principles.
Boomer860 Posted December 21, 2008 Posted December 21, 2008 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/21...g-middle-class/ The only way the Obama/Biden admin will achieve this is by taking the upper and upper middle class down into middle class status. The socialist model wants everyone in society to be the "Middle Class" with only the government bureaucrats and their ilk to be the only power brokers and elites. This is classic Marxism and we better wake up America. The constitution is one of limited government, not a government that seeks to control all aspects of our existence. I will take decades of conservative government (Not Bush's form a Government) to undo the damage that will be caused by this future administration and the last years of Bush's. Let's not be fooled by the "Global Warming" Alarmists which seek to profoundly change our economy and life style based on bogus facts and world order politics. Please visit the Heritage Foundation for intelligent information on the constitution and conservative values and principles. I have said it befor and I will say it again . Obama is lying Communist fraud.
The Dean Posted December 21, 2008 Posted December 21, 2008 I have said it befor and I will say it again . Obama is lying Communist fraud. Given your obvious stupidity, the fact that you seem to be able to type is simply stunning. Well done!
Boomer860 Posted December 21, 2008 Posted December 21, 2008 Given your obvious stupidity, the fact that you seem to be able to type is simply stunning. Well done! Thanks , thats not bad coming from a disciple of Al Gore and global warming . Not to mention the sheeple of Obama. also I am sure you and Barney have a lot in common. You answer will probably be , that being queer is fun . You libertards never cease to amaze me.
The Dean Posted December 21, 2008 Posted December 21, 2008 Thanks , thats not bad coming from a disciple of Al Gore and global warming . Not to mention the sheeple of Obama. also I am sure you and Barney have a lot in common. You answer will probably be , that being queer is fun . You libertards never cease to amaze me. What's all this, now?
PastaJoe Posted December 21, 2008 Posted December 21, 2008 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/21...g-middle-class/ The only way the Obama/Biden admin will achieve this is by taking the upper and upper middle class down into middle class status. The socialist model wants everyone in society to be the "Middle Class" with only the government bureaucrats and their ilk to be the only power brokers and elites. This is classic Marxism and we better wake up America. The constitution is one of limited government, not a government that seeks to control all aspects of our existence. I will take decades of conservative government (Not Bush's form a Government) to undo the damage that will be caused by this future administration and the last years of Bush's. Let's not be fooled by the "Global Warming" Alarmists which seek to profoundly change our economy and life style based on bogus facts and world order politics. Please visit the Heritage Foundation for intelligent information on the constitution and conservative values and principles. It's only fair, since Bush and corporations have taken the middle class down to lower economic class status. Somebody has to fill the void in the middle class.
blzrul Posted December 21, 2008 Posted December 21, 2008 It's only fair, since Bush and corporations have taken the middle class down to lower economic class status. Somebody has to fill the void in the middle class. Good point. Bush tried to eradicate the middle class and almost succeeded. This would, ironically, have been the ONLY thing he'd ever succeeded at in his life. Unless, of course, you consider !@#$ing up (at which he excels) to be his goal...in that case, he's definitely a standout.
Fingon Posted December 22, 2008 Posted December 22, 2008 Good point. Bush tried to eradicate the middle class and almost succeeded. This would, ironically, have been the ONLY thing he'd ever succeeded at in his life. Unless, of course, you consider !@#$ing up (at which he excels) to be his goal...in that case, he's definitely a standout. The poor in our country are middle class.
SD Jarhead Posted December 22, 2008 Posted December 22, 2008 Good point. Bush tried to eradicate the middle class and almost succeeded. This would, ironically, have been the ONLY thing he'd ever succeeded at in his life. Unless, of course, you consider !@#$ing up (at which he excels) to be his goal...in that case, he's definitely a standout. Are you really this deranged that you believe the tripe you write? So in your world (or one of the worlds in your brain) Bush wanted two types of people, mega-rich and poor...right? BTW, how many RV's, dune buggys and other assorted toys does an American need to qualify as middle class?
PastaJoe Posted December 22, 2008 Posted December 22, 2008 When i was in the military i had three guys in my platoon that grew up south central Los Angeles. They had nothing growing up and used the military to get a better life. Now one of them is in Special Forces, one owns his own Photography Studio, and the one designs video games for a living. The opportunities to better yourself are out there if you are willing to work hard to get there. That's a sad statement about the lack of opportunity that their only option to better their lives was to put them on the line in the military, while those better off can afford to have the option of going to college or trade schools.
RkFast Posted December 22, 2008 Posted December 22, 2008 Heard a radio spot this AM blabbering about how to get people who make more than 250K to "pay their fair share" of taxes. Comical. And Id like the global warming nuts to answer me this: How come NOT ONE of the proposals you freaks put forth do NOT include some kind of new tax?
pBills Posted December 22, 2008 Posted December 22, 2008 Can they tax people that have more than 4,000 posts on any message board?
OCinBuffalo Posted December 22, 2008 Posted December 22, 2008 That's a sad statement about the lack of opportunity that their only option to better their lives was to put them on the line in the military, while those better off can afford to have the option of going to college or trade schools. Only an affected person would look at a story of personal achievement based on hard work and self-sacrifice and call it "sad". Have you ever been in this "terrible military thing we should all hate so much"? If not, where is your perspective, and therefore the basis for your judgment coming from exactly? Oh, I forgot, all crazy left people are immune from actually knowing about the material before forming an opinion about it. They are "intellectuals" after all. Do us all a favor: go out and ask 10 random soldiers/officers in the Army if they feel or felt "forced" to do what they do/did, and come back and tell us the results. Of course that won't matter, because you are supposed to be doing the thinking for them anyway, right? And you think that they should have or could have done better for themselves, right? For the life of me, I have no idea who put you in charge of "how other people conduct their lives", but I would like to know why they did it.
GG Posted December 22, 2008 Posted December 22, 2008 That's a sad statement about the lack of opportunity that their only option to better their lives was to put them on the line in the military, while those better off can afford to have the option of going to college or trade schools. Actually, no. There are plenty of opportunities for advancement from poor to middle class aside from the military. What detox left unsaid is that perhaps for many people, military provides a structure and a kick in the butt to actually go out and take advantage of those opportunities. I doubt that his buddies spent most of their time in the Air Force learning photography & video game design.
kegtapr Posted December 22, 2008 Posted December 22, 2008 That's a sad statement about the lack of opportunity that their only option to better their lives was to put them on the line in the military, while those better off can afford to have the option of going to college or trade schools. And explain how that was their only option? I paid 100% of my way through college with student loans. How do they not have that same opportunity?
PastaJoe Posted December 22, 2008 Posted December 22, 2008 And explain how that was their only option? I paid 100% of my way through college with student loans. How do they not have that same opportunity? You'll have to ask the poster, he's the one who inferred that the way out of poverty is the military. And there are many people who can't secure loans sufficient to cover college expenses, so they don't view it as a viable alternative. Military service is a fine profession, but it should be chosen for positive reasons, not because one feels they have no other options.
RkFast Posted December 22, 2008 Posted December 22, 2008 You'll have to ask the poster, he's the one who inferred that the way out of poverty is the military. And there are many people who can't secure loans sufficient to cover college expenses, so they don't view it as a viable alternative. Military service is a fine profession, but it should be chosen for positive reasons, not because one feels they have no other options. Some people choose COLLEGE because the way they see it there are "no other options."
Boomer860 Posted December 22, 2008 Posted December 22, 2008 And explain how that was their only option? I paid 100% of my way through college with student loans. How do they not have that same opportunity? Or go into the ROTC program ,Army pays full ride for school , take your choice of college subjects.,get comissioned as an Army officer , get further training . Stay in till you retire or get out after you obligated time. Service is a great background to have when applying for most jobs.
DC Tom Posted December 23, 2008 Posted December 23, 2008 That's a sad statement about the lack of opportunity that their only option to better their lives was to put them on the line in the military, while those better off can afford to have the option of going to college or trade schools. It's a sadder statement about the effectiveness of your liberal social programs that military service provides that much better an opportunity.
Jim in Anchorage Posted December 23, 2008 Posted December 23, 2008 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/21...g-middle-class/ The only way the Obama/Biden admin will achieve this is by taking the upper and upper middle class down into middle class status. The socialist model wants everyone in society to be the "Middle Class" with only the government bureaucrats and their ilk to be the only power brokers and elites. This is classic Marxism and we better wake up America. The constitution is one of limited government, not a government that seeks to control all aspects of our existence. I will take decades of conservative government (Not Bush's form a Government) to undo the damage that will be caused by this future administration and the last years of Bush's. Let's not be fooled by the "Global Warming" Alarmists which seek to profoundly change our economy and life style based on bogus facts and world order politics. Please visit the Heritage Foundation for intelligent information on the constitution and conservative values and principles. Might as well name him Queen of England. Its a ceremonial position,pure and simple
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