devldog131 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 That'd be great. We could change quarterbacks every 3 quarters snaps. Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdelma Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 They're KILLING me, Whitey. They're killing me. Lou Saban famous quote, replace OJ with Lou on the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdelma Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Lou Saban, would make Marv look like choir boy on the sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIE HARD 1967 Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 Lou Saban famous quote, replace OJ with Lou on the wall. He was coaching a High School team 2 miles from my house in floridia 2 years ago. The guy is almost 85 years old, I heard he moved outside NYC recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdelma Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 He was coaching a High School team 2 miles from my house in florid 2 years ago. The guy is almost 85 years old, I heard he moved outside NYC recently Lou was the only coach who wouldn't take $$it from ralph, and ralph knew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIE HARD 1967 Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 Lou was the only coach who wouldn't take $$it from ralph, and ralph knew it. I used him as an example for that reason. Ralph wants good employees that keep their mouths closed. Ralph is simply old school, you are an employee, I am the boss The only coaches he really respected was Chuck Knox and Marv Levy Lou Saban was always quiting some team, just like Parcells did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIE HARD 1967 Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 Lou Saban, would make Marv look like choir boy on the sidelines. Lou is my favorite but you probably knew that from my avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan74 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Lets go back over the last 45 years... Who was the last coach in Buffalo to raise his voice in a post game press conference at OBD or the Rockpile? Its called passion guys, are the Bills so good that the coaches have no reason to be angry? Have you ever wondered about that? The last coach I remember getting angry was Lou Saban, and he was conveniently released from his contract after the season. Do our coaches have a "WILL NOT GET ANGRY CLAUSE IN THEIR CONTRACT?" I truly believe Buffalo fans want the true answers, and not some coach blowing wind or avoiding the true questions. This is one of the main reasons Buffalo fans don't like most of our coaches, on Monday we receive NO REAL ANSWERS and the head coaches don't seem to care. We can't even get a straight answer on a contract extension. You probably heard the saying " A team takes on the personally of the head coach" Open the links below and compare these guys to any former Buffalo Bills Head coach. Here is Dick Jauron after an embarrassing loss at home to the Rams "Theres not a lot we can say about it" says Jauron http://www.buffalobills.com/media-lounge/v...0b-c30381a6c0d8 Note: If you can figure out why our head coaches never get angry about anything, you may be on to something. DIE HARD 1967 I love Parcells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIE HARD 1967 Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 I love Parcells I love him and I hate him. He is clearly the best modern day guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Lou was the only coach who wouldn't take $$it from ralph, and ralph knew it. ...which is why you'll never see his name on the wall. but seriously, since when did "angry" become the prime prerequisite for coaching greatness? chuck knox and lou saban weren't great because they were merely "angry." i agree you have to raise your voice from time to time, but to think that is the only thing this franchise is missing is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIE HARD 1967 Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 ...which is why you'll never see his name on the wall. but seriously, since when did "angry" become the prime prerequisite for coaching greatness? chuck knox and lou saban weren't great because they were merely "angry." i agree you have to raise your voice from time to time, but to think that is the only thing this franchise is missing is laughable. You will notice some of the above coaches in the link are no longer head coaches or about to be fired. Dick Jauron is not a motivator, I think that is pretty obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 You will notice some of the above coaches in the link are no longer head coaches or about to be fired. Dick Jauron is not a motivator, I think that is pretty obvious Motivation is not the problem. Most of us expected to be blown out Sunday, and they went down 14-3 to a superior team in a hostile environment. It would have been easy for a team that lacks passion to crumble up and go through the motions...but they clawed their way back into the game, as they've done multiple times this year. Again, motivation is NOT whats missing. Its coaching and/or talent, depending on your point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 He was coaching a High School team 2 miles from my house in floridia 2 years ago. The guy is almost 85 years old, I heard he moved outside NYC recently Lou Saban is the only coach that I saw take those tough losses just as badly as I did. That is why he is my favorite coach of all-time. And... Chuck Knox should have and would have won a Superbowl with better ownership. The 1980 Bills would have beaten any of our four S.B. loss teams of the 90's. If Joe Ferguson doesn't play on one leg, we are the ones demolishing the Eagles in Superbowl XV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIE HARD 1967 Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 Motivation is not the problem. Most of us expected to be blown out Sunday, and they went down 14-3 to a superior team in a hostile environment. It would have been easy for a team that lacks passion to crumble up and go through the motions...but they clawed their way back into the game, as they've done multiple times this year. Again, motivation is NOT whats missing. Its coaching and/or talent, depending on your point of view. The sure looked unmotivated against the Browns, the first Miami game and the Rams at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIE HARD 1967 Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 Lou Saban is the only coach that I saw take those tough losses just as badly as I did. That is why he is my favorite coach of all-time.And... Chuck Knox should have and would have won a Superbowl with better ownership. The 1980 Bills would have beaten any of our four S.B. loss teams of the 90's. If Joe Ferguson doesn't play on one leg, we are the ones demolishing the Eagles in Superbowl XV. I agree with you 100%. Chuck was a great coach, Ralph clearly screwed up with that guy. I wonder what ever happened to Chuck Knox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Contrary to what some believe, Marv was very animated on the sidelines but he also treated his players like men and not children which is one of his best assets. I never understood the Dick Jauron comparisons to Marv Levy from day one, Marv might not have been the strongest X's and O's guy but he had the perfect personality to be a football coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIE HARD 1967 Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 Contrary to what some believe, Marv was very animated on the sidelines but he also treated his players like men and not children which is one of his best assets. I never understood the Dick Jauron comparisons to Marv Levy from day one, Marv might not have been the strongest X's and O's guy but he had the perfect personality to be a football coach. I think Ralph trusted Marv, and that is the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I think the exact emotinal style of our coaches has gotten overblown, but I think it comes down to this: We need a coach who tells his players "if you listen to me, we're going to win, if you don't, we're going to lose" and have his players believe that. That can be through screaming or it can be through sheer confidence or it could be through experience. That also means no more of this horsecockery like we've seen in the past few seasons in terms of playcalling - players aren't going to believe it if the coach doesn't deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIE HARD 1967 Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 I think the exact emotinal style of our coaches has gotten overblown, but I think it comes down to this: We need a coach who tells his players "if you listen to me, we're going to win, if you don't, we're going to lose" and have his players believe that. That can be through screaming or it can be through sheer confidence or it could be through experience. That also means no more of this horsecockery like we've seen in the past few seasons in terms of playcalling - players aren't going to believe it if the coach doesn't deliver. I think we need a BIG coach that will beat the crap out of them (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I used him as an example for that reason. Ralph wants good employees that keep their mouths closed. Ralph is simply old school, you are an employee, I am the boss The only coaches he really respected was Chuck Knox and Marv Levy Lou Saban was always quiting some team, just like Parcells did. Yeah, but its ok when Saban does it- after all he's won championships...which makes it ok to quit without notice.....before you even start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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