Rico Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 I voted for the Red Sox. WOW, unbelievable... Truly stunning.
KD in CA Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 Not even close. The Mets were a doormat team that came out of absolutely nowhere to win the pennant and shock an awesome O's team in the WS. The Sox were six outs from the WS the year before and THEN went out and added one of the 3 best pitchers in baseball. It's a shock to their fans after the long wait, but there was no question in April that they were one of the best teams in baseball.
Steven in MD Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 This just goes to show you that a good GM can make a team better.
RCow Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 Not even close. The Mets were a doormat team that came out of absolutely nowhere to win the pennant and shock an awesome O's team in the WS. The Sox were six outs from the WS the year before and THEN went out and added one of the 3 best pitchers in baseball. It's a shock to their fans after the long wait, but there was no question in April that they were one of the best teams in baseball. 89126[/snapback] I'm a Mets fan first (then Sox - I don't want to discuss '86) but the 2004 Sox would destroy the 1969 Mets. In '69, I'm not sure the Mets were favored to finish the season let alone 1st in the National. The '69 Orioles were dominant, it was a complete shock.
Like A Mofo Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 The Mets, by a LONG mile. Yes the Red Sox pulled off the impossible 3-0 deficit, and against their arch nemesis...but the Mets were a true Miracle, from April-October.
Realist Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 The Sox this year were not really a shocker, they were one of the favorites. The only thing shocking about it, is how they won 8 straight, and shut down the Cardinals high powered offense.
Rico Posted October 28, 2004 Author Posted October 28, 2004 Look at the big picture, look at the history. The Boston Red Sox actually won a World Series. Simply shocking.
SeanO Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 Actually this is the a stupid poll!!! Pole should be Biggest choke! Yankees in 2004 or Sox in 1986 Yanks in 2004 !!! Look at the big picture, look at the history. The Boston Red Sox actually won a World Series. Simply shocking. 89297[/snapback]
Like A Mofo Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 Look at the big picture, look at the history. The Boston Red Sox actually won a World Series. Simply shocking. 89297[/snapback] In the big picture yes, but thinking about baseball today, not really. A lot of Yankee haters and non Yankees fans love to bring up $ as the only reason the yankees are winning again, but not many fans want to say that the Red Sox have also benefitted from spending more $ too. So looking at their talent level, its not that suprising they won. the way they came back against the Yankees down 3-0 it was, but overall looking at 2004 if you told me the Red Sox would win the WS, I wouldnt have been that shocked.
gantrules Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 exactly Clements...exactly. When the Yankees win...it's about payroll. When Boston wins....it's about team character. Yet they have the second highest payroll in the game.
Like A Mofo Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 exactly Clements...exactly. When the Yankees win...it's about payroll. When Boston wins....it's about team character. Yet they have the second highest payroll in the game. 89448[/snapback] And I agree...the Sox should be applauded for their character, they were truly a team...but $ is NEVER mentioned...
The Poojer Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 i would put the d-backs, marlins and the 86 buckner series bigger shockers than the sox win this year. the sox were a hell of a team this year! no real shocker here!
mead107 Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 good for the sox and there fans ,but who gives stevestojan
Guest Guest Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 The Sox were a shocker only after Game 3 of the ALCS. At basically any other point in the season (OK, excluding Games 2-6 of the ALCS) the Red Sox were, if not a favorite, a strong contender for the world series. It's about as much of a shock as the Bucs winning the Super Bowl a couple years ago. I didn't pick them, but a 14-year-old girl in my English class did. So its not exactly a surprise.
SilverNRed Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 Not to take anything away from Sox fans, but what really happened here is the team with the second highest payroll won it all after the team with the highest payroll had the biggest choke in baseball history. Not a shock at all. The 2002 Angels and 2003 Marlins were both bigger shocks, when you look at it from the standpoints of payroll, expectations, and the way their seasons started.
Zamboni Man Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 Is the shocker the same thing as baseball as the two in the pink one in the stink shocker?
KD in CA Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 Is the shocker the same thing as baseball as the two in the pink one in the stink shocker? 89718[/snapback] WHAT?!?!?!??
wwovince Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 Rico is a blinded spankee moron period!! The red sox showed the spankees how to win a series when up 3-0 2004 World Champions BABY!!
PIZ Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 Just curious, but how much was the 1969 Mets payroll? And how much was the 2004 Red Sox payroll?
RuntheDamnBall Posted October 28, 2004 Posted October 28, 2004 In the big picture yes, but thinking about baseball today, not really. A lot of Yankee haters and non Yankees fans love to bring up $ as the only reason the yankees are winning again, but not many fans want to say that the Red Sox have also benefitted from spending more $ too. So looking at their talent level, its not that suprising they won. the way they came back against the Yankees down 3-0 it was, but overall looking at 2004 if you told me the Red Sox would win the WS, I wouldnt have been that shocked. 89433[/snapback] Clements, you're right, and I'm coming from a non-Yanks fan's perspective. The thing is where the Yanks succeeded in the past was through shrewd FA moves and having the money to keep their young talent. They are running up short now because they haven't developed any of their own young pitching in years and are signing the big bats instead of role players like Brosius and O'Neill. Those guys had heart and were Yankees through and through. I'm still not convinced A-Rod does. I think the Sox followed a similar blueprint to the Yanks' championship years, though they won't be able to keep this team together entirely. The shocker for the Sox was in the execution, not that they got there.
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