ecgetty Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 Why can't the Bills even target Evans for throws? Double teams? Let me ask why that isn't the same case for, Steve Smith, Andre Johnson, Greg Jennings, Santana Moss, Brandon Marshall, Dwayne Bowe etc. All guys who see double teams and are a primary target in the passing game. Why is Evans the only high paid decoy on a team with few options at WR. Is he just not that good or is it all the QB?
Alphadawg7 Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 Why can't the Bills even target Evans for throws? Double teams? Let me ask why that isn't the same case for, Steve Smith, Andre Johnson, Greg Jennings, Santana Moss, Brandon Marshall, Dwayne Bowe etc. All guys who see double teams and are a primary target in the passing game. Why is Evans the only high paid decoy on a team with few options at WR. Is he just not that good or is it all the QB? Its the QB and coaches...mostly the coaches because they dont make an effort to make him a priority. Look at those players you talked about...those teams push the ball up field and take chances in their passing game...we look for the safe, conservative approach first and push when we are forced to.
ecgetty Posted December 15, 2008 Author Posted December 15, 2008 Its the QB and coaches...mostly the coaches because they dont make an effort to make him a priority. Look at those players you talked about...those teams push the ball up field and take chances in their passing game...we look for the safe, conservative approach first and push when we are forced to. I totally agree. I meant to add that it is all the coaches. Let a guy make some plays! Evans has great hands. Too bad he spends most of the game putting them gingerly on DBs shoulder pads on running plays or helping up Josh Reed.
ecgetty Posted December 15, 2008 Author Posted December 15, 2008 I totally agree. I meant to add that it is all the coaches. Let a guy make some plays! Evans has great hands. Too bad he spends most of the game putting them gingerly on DBs shoulder pads on running plays or helping up Josh Reed. I'd like to see the occasional double move deep to evans but, I am worried about his ability to shake contact at the line os scrimage. Looks like he is too often knocked off balance.
Nostradumbass Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 I agree. He has such great hands, good team would create plays just for Lee. Ever heard of a freaking flea flicker? A pass on 2 and 1? Somthing to shake the D loose and give our best player the ball
marauderswr80 Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 Coaching........something we dont have in Buffalo. Simple.
ecgetty Posted December 15, 2008 Author Posted December 15, 2008 Evans sees double teams but I'm not sure he can handle them as well as even Moulds who used strength to make catches. Is Evans a huge costly mistake who is only a deep threat?
ganesh Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 Why can't the Bills even target Evans for throws? Double teams? Let me ask why that isn't the same case for, Steve Smith, Andre Johnson, Greg Jennings, Santana Moss, Brandon Marshall, Dwayne Bowe etc. All guys who see double teams and are a primary target in the passing game. Why is Evans the only high paid decoy on a team with few options at WR. Is he just not that good or is it all the QB? I think the biggest factor is to have another #2 WR that can help these guys eventually. Also, I think Evans is one dimensional in this offense (at least used that way). I rarely see Evans in the slot.
thewildrabbit Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 I think the world was finally able to see what kind of coaches the Bills have game planning and calling offensive plays,they suck.Therefore the players are handcuffed by them and their play reflects that fact.
ecgetty Posted December 15, 2008 Author Posted December 15, 2008 Every QB (even JP) makes it through 2 reads. Is Lee unable to make himself available 2.5 to 3.5 seconds after the snap? He has shown brillance, I just can't figure it out. On so many plays he doesn't even get a look.
bobobonators Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 to me, all you have to do is look at that reverse that we ran with Johnson. We have roscoe, and Evans, but we run a reverse with Johnson--who is half as fast as those two. Great call, wrong personnel. This coaching staff can't take two steps without falling flat on their faces.
StupidNation Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 Watched Smith today. He came back to the ball and ran off pattern to bail out his QB on several plays. He makes himself a player and fought for a first down right through the CB.
ecgetty Posted December 15, 2008 Author Posted December 15, 2008 Evans is a 1200 receiver on 20 teams in the NFL. 5 more @ 850 just because of a premier #1. With the Bills he is never best then 25th in the league without a new HC and/or OC
spartacus Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 Its the QB and coaches...mostly the coaches because they dont make an effort to make him a priority. Look at those players you talked about...those teams push the ball up field and take chances in their passing game...we look for the safe, conservative approach first and push when we are forced to. we don;t push it even when down by 4 with 30 seconds to play. wew continue to throw 4 yard passes
colin Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 my biggest complaint about the bills O from an X's and O's POV is that we pass out of 5 wide, shotgun, trips, or some other obvious formation. we run (except for the shotgun draws wich NEVER WORK) out of wildcat, I, double back, and double TE. we are just too obvious and vanilla ALL THE DAMN TIME. i can't remember when we threw a screen or ran up the gut vs a blitz, or followed up one of our strong strings of running plays (which we have every damn game) with play action that fooled anyone. i think like gregg williams and his rook oc in his first year, we are just outsmarting ourselves. anyhow, because of all of this lee evans won't get many looks
billsfreak Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 If my memory serves me correct, I think they threw deep to Evans once in about the last 7 or 8 weeks and he was open last week and JP over threw him by a country mile.
DrFishfinder Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 Why can't the Bills even target Evans for throws? Double teams? Let me ask why that isn't the same case for, Steve Smith, Andre Johnson, Greg Jennings, Santana Moss, Brandon Marshall, Dwayne Bowe etc. All guys who see double teams and are a primary target in the passing game. Why is Evans the only high paid decoy on a team with few options at WR. Is he just not that good or is it all the QB? Where has Lee Evans been for the second half of the season? Is he even trying anymore?
Poeticlaw Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 Why can't the Bills even target Evans for throws? Double teams? Let me ask why that isn't the same case for, Steve Smith, Andre Johnson, Greg Jennings, Santana Moss, Brandon Marshall, Dwayne Bowe etc. All guys who see double teams and are a primary target in the passing game. Why is Evans the only high paid decoy on a team with few options at WR. Is he just not that good or is it all the QB? Becuase lee evans isnt as good as all the fans are making him out to be.
dickie do-right Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 Why can't the Bills even target Evans for throws? Double teams? Let me ask why that isn't the same case for, Steve Smith, Andre Johnson, Greg Jennings, Santana Moss, Brandon Marshall, Dwayne Bowe etc. All guys who see double teams and are a primary target in the passing game. Why is Evans the only high paid decoy on a team with few options at WR. Is he just not that good or is it all the QB? Simple - The OL can't pass protect - The OC has no confidence in his QB's.
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