GG Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 If they brought in those three, I'd settle for Hojo and Woody playing wideout. And which one of these scenarios is the more likely one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 It usually takes 3 years for a WR to come into his own, however he is a 2nd rounder and should have showed us more than he did! HARDY=BUST Whats that line about opening up your mouth and removing all doubt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 And which one of these scenarios is the more likely one? For us ... one that ends up with a combination of , , and . That's the normal result these last few years, no? But when you typed those three names, I actually let myself imagine the possibilities for a second. It was nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 For us ... one that ends up with a combination of , , and . That's the normal result these last few years, no? But when you typed those three names, I actually let myself imagine the possibilities for a second. It was nice. I remember there was a team once that had Bruce Smith, Fred Smerlas, Art Still, Cornelius Bennett, Shane Conlan & Darryl Talley on the roster at the same time. I also remember there was a day when teams couldn't wait for any Bills' LB to become a FA .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson from Gamehendge Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Does it really matter? The guy did nothing all year and has bust written all over him. 7th round pick Johnson has been more productive. Hahahahahaha! Some people on here crack me up! A player plays in a very select few games in his ROOKIE season, when Rookie WR's dont do anything to begin with...and you are calling him a "BUST?" HAHAHA! Just a couple weeks ago, everybody on here was saying Leodis McKelvin was a "Bust!" He WILL be a Pro-Bowler. For a player to be considered a "BUST," he must be given QUALITY time to improve, hone his skills and adapt to the NFL game. When I speak of time, I dont mean training camp and a couple games...how about like 3-5 years? If after 3 years the player has not gotten better and become a starter, and after 5 years if they are nothing and out of the league (ala Mike Williams...the lineman and the receiver), then YES, that player can be considered a "BUST." Even Donte Whitner has been called a "Bust." I have heard on here that POZ is nothing. It is ALL absurd. Look at this team and what these young players, whom you consider NO GOOD, have in front of them and around them. Maybe Whitner is not suited to play SS in the NFL, move him to FS and he might become the game-changer we long for. Better yet, produce a !@#$in pass-rush to force the QB to make quick decisions...and I bet Whitner would be a TOTALLY DIFFERENT player in the secondary. Chris Hope...Pro-Bowler? I would rather have Donte Whitner. If you get married, and your wife cooks her first homecooked meal badly and shrinks your favorite shirt...is she a "Bust?" Should you have gotten someone else...is your marriage ruined? EVERYTHING takes time...especially for ROOKIE football players to develope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Hahahahahaha! Some people on here crack me up! A player plays in a very select few games in his ROOKIE season, when Rookie WR's dont do anything to begin with...and you are calling him a "BUST?" HAHAHA! Just a couple weeks ago, everybody on here was saying Leodis McKelvin was a "Bust!" He WILL be a Pro-Bowler. For a player to be considered a "BUST," he must be given QUALITY time to improve, hone his skills and adapt to the NFL game. When I speak of time, I dont mean training camp and a couple games...how about like 3-5 years? If after 3 years the player has not gotten better and become a starter, and after 5 years if they are nothing and out of the league (ala Mike Williams...the lineman and the receiver), then YES, that player can be considered a "BUST." Even Donte Whitner has been called a "Bust." I have heard on here that POZ is nothing. It is ALL absurd. Look at this team and what these young players, whom you consider NO GOOD, have in front of them and around them. Maybe Whitner is not suited to play SS in the NFL, move him to FS and he might become the game-changer we long for. Better yet, produce a !@#$in pass-rush to force the QB to make quick decisions...and I bet Whitner would be a TOTALLY DIFFERENT player in the secondary. Chris Hope...Pro-Bowler? I would rather have Donte Whitner. If you get married, and your wife cooks her first homecooked meal badly and shrinks your favorite shirt...is she a "Bust?" Should you have gotten someone else...is your marriage ruined? EVERYTHING takes time...especially for ROOKIE football players to develope! Many of these same folks were blasting Josh Reed not too long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Many of these same folks were blasting Josh Reed not too long ago. In all fairness, he was blasted for regressing from a very good rookie campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson from Gamehendge Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Many of these same folks were blasting Josh Reed not too long ago. REALLY? The same Josh Reed that caught, what, 9 balls this Sunday against Champ Bailey and Dre Bly??? NO WAY! And they call themselves "Bills" fans. Ha, what a joke! They are probably the same !@#$s who were throwing sh-- at our players as they left the field that one game. Absolutely pathetic. Either stand by your team and support your players...or find another team to disgrace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Either stand by your team and support your players...or find another team to disgrace! Objectively evaluating a players or team's performance does not equate to being un-supportive of said players/team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 In all fairness, he was blasted for regressing from a very good rookie campaign. That was the start of it. But, in the following years, even after the dropsies subsided, many here had him cut in camp, labeled him less than NFL-quality, etc. My point being that many here are quick to write off players, with little-to-no contextual evaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Objectively evaluating a players or team's performance does not equate to being un-supportive of said players/team. Correct. And, neither does hastily criticizing players before they've had a proper chance to display their abilities. Labeling a rookie WR a bust, is stupid under any circumstances. With that said, I have real concerns about Hardy and don't have a great feeling about him. But, it is far too early to know for sure, what he will become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmet_hair Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 F you Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kettle Creek Football Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I can't believe i saw people write "who cares" Let me direct you to some Bills recievers facts: Eric Moulds first two seasons: 1996 : 20 rec. for 279 2 TDS 1997 : 29 rec. for 294 0 TDs Andre Reed: it took Andre Reed till his 5th season (1989) to record his 1st 1,000 yard season Lee Evans: it took him till his third season to have a 1000 yard season 3rd season till he broke 50 receptions I know you can start an argument about any of those recievers but i have one simple point....... patience my friend hope his injury is not serious Good points. I recall Moulds almost being run out of town (by media and fans after his first 2 seasons). Last I read, Hardy tore his ACL. I know from personal experience (I tore mine 10 years ago) it takes a good year to fully rehab it. Recall when Jamal Lewis and Edge James tore theirs, they each weren't back to 100% until their 2nd seasons after their injuries (I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billnutinphoenix Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Puh-leeeze. He barely played one season and he's a bust??? He may not become a pro bowler but to declare him a bust now is idiotic. PTR totally agreed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kettle Creek Football Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 FYI - PFW Top 10 Rookie Disappointments... http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Featu...08/rookie16.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 FYI - PFW Top 10 Rookie Disappointments... http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Featu...08/rookie16.htm ...nice link! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp on da' net Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Does it really matter? The guy did nothing all year and has bust written all over him. 7th round pick Johnson has been more productive. Sounds similarly to what was said about McKelvin after 8 wks......WR usually takes awhile, lets wait and see about Hardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 FYI - PFW Top 10 Rookie Disappointments... http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Featu...08/rookie16.htm I spy a few names on the "disappointment list" that many were touting for the Bills to take in the 1st Round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spun Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 How much work did either Hardy or Johnson get this year in either practices or games? Not a whole lot would be my guess. Hopefully, both will improve in time. Remember Ricky Dudley who was a basketball player converted to tight end? His results were mixed mostly because he dropped too many passes but it took him a while to pick up on many of the skills considered basic to a receiver such as route running. It takes time and patience to excel at any NFL position for most players. Good look in your recovery James Hardy, I hope you heal up 100%. And Merry Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 For us ... one that ends up with a combination of , , and . That's the normal result these last few years, no? But when you typed those three names, I actually let myself imagine the possibilities for a second. It was nice. Aww...you are getting greedy. I'll settle for 2/3...what do you think of a DL that goes like this... Peppers Stroud Haynesworth Schobel with LBs Mitchell Poz Karlos Dansby and the secondary McGee Whitner Scott McKelvin Damn, on a second look, thats nice...real nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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