Sarah Palin's Church...

[Wacka]

They hate her because she is popular and is a real threat to their socialist messiah in 2012.

[elegantelliotoffen]

They hate her because she is popular and is a real threat to their socialist messiah in 2012.

 

Do you know how to read a poll?

[KD in CA]

Yes people hate her. She is a walking, talking insult to America's intelligence

 

 

Well in that case, at least her impact on you has been minimal.

[buckeyemike]

Part of my point is that there were people, including two children, in the church when the fire started.

 

For all I know, it was done by a disgruntled parishoner and has nothing at all to do with Sarah Palin.

 

But, again, the douchebag that did this needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I don't care how much people disagree with what a church teaches or who attends there.

 

I will say it one more time, decent people don't burn down churches. Only complete and total douchebags do.

[The Dean]

Part of my point is that there were people, including two children, in the church when the fire started.

 

For all I know, it was done by a disgruntled parishoner and has nothing at all to do with Sarah Palin.

 

But, again, the douchebag that did this needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I don't care how much people disagree with what a church teaches or who attends there.

 

I will say it one more time, decent people don't burn down churches. Only complete and total douchebags do.

 

 

Agree 100%

[Steely Dan]

Link to Washington Post Article

 

We don't know for certain if it's linked to the hatred some have for Sarah Palin. But, I would bet on it, if I were a betting man.

 

I don't care how anyone may feel about her personally. There is dissent, and there is destruction.

 

Decent people don't burn down churches. Period. End of discussion.

 

I don't understand why burning churches is worse than burning any other building other than it's racist in most situations. Here an arsonist started a fire with people in the building. Is it any worse than if he'd started a fire at a store that was primarily associated with blacks or Jews?

 

 

Amazing. Unbelievable. Unacceptable. But it's not the south, she's not black, and no one died. Probably the last we'll hear about it.

 

 

Man, are you stupid.

 

Thank you for saving me a lot of typing. Short, sweet and right on!

 

 

I'll bet you $5 the liberal Washington Post covers it!

 

 

And who else? The Washington Post is one of the best journalism publications out there.

 

This story is all over the news, on every station that I have turned on, as well as The Washington Post, The New York Times, The LA Times, CNN.com, and MSNBC.com. I stopped looking after every single one of these news outlets had, at the very least, a link to this story on their front page.

 

What, again, is your problem?

 

Thank you for saving me the time.

 

 

Good point. And I'm not saying Palin's church burning should be either. But don't you sense there is hatred towards her? I do. And towards me too for saying anything about it right here in TBD PPP.

 

Name one political figure that doesn't have hatred towards them.

 

Been watching CNN headline news all morning. Nothing. But, I'm willing to stand corrected.

 

CNN just had a 20 second voice story on it. I stand corrected.

 

How much longer should it be. Palin's church burned down with people in it and police suspect arson, nobody hurt, she apologized if it's against her. What more needs to be said?

 

 

They hate her because she is popular and is a real threat to their socialist messiah in 2012.

 

 

God, I hope they run her as the Presidential candidate in 2012 it would be like the beatdown Reagan gave Mondale.

[Wacka]

Yep, she'll beat the messiah like a rented mule!

[buckeyemike]

I don't understand why burning churches is worse than burning any other building other than it's racist in most situations. Here an arsonist started a fire with people in the building. Is it any worse than if he'd started a fire at a store that was primarily associated with blacks or Jews?

 

I get what you're saying, but churches are places of peace and hope. Such places should be off-limits. Of course, everyplace should be off-limits to arson, but I believe that churches, synagogues, and other houses of worship have an unlisted exemption to such criminal activity.

 

Burning a church, I believe, is a hate crime. It tells people that the thug who committed the act hates what the church represents and hates the people who worship there. I would go so far as to call it a terrorist act.

 

Webster's defines terrorism as the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

 

Thus, the arson of Sarah Palin's church is terrorism. Enough said.

[Steely Dan]

I get what you're saying, but churches are places of peace and hope. Such places should be off-limits. Of course, everyplace should be off-limits to arson, but I believe that churches, synagogues, and other houses of worship have an unlisted exemption to such criminal activity.

 

Burning a church, I believe, is a hate crime. It tells people that the thug who committed the act hates what the church represents and hates the people who worship there. I would go so far as to call it a terrorist act.

 

Webster's defines terrorism as the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

 

Thus, the arson of Sarah Palin's church is terrorism. Enough said.

 

I disagree with your assertion that churches are places of peace and hope. A lot of them preach hate.

 

As Deano pointed out it could be a disgruntled Parishoner.

 

It could also be someone trying to kill a specific person in the church at the time of the arson and they are trying to cover it up by making it look like a hate crime.

 

Hate crimes occur at other places too.

[buckeyemike]

I disagree with your assertion that churches are places of peace and hope. A lot of them preach hate.

 

As Deano pointed out it could be a disgruntled Parishoner.

 

It could also be someone trying to kill a specific person in the church at the time of the arson and they are trying to cover it up by making it look like a hate crime.

 

Hate crimes occur at other places too.

 

Of course hate crimes occur at other places. And your other theory could be correct as well.

 

But I'm afraid we're going to have to agree to disagree on what churches are, or what they are supposed to be. Fred Phelps' church out in Topeka preaches plenty of hate. But I'm not going to burn his church down, even though I think he's a raving lunatic who lashes out because he wants attention.

 

Actually, I was the one who said it could be a disgruntled parishoner. But I'll forgive you for that.

[Steely Dan]

Of course hate crimes occur at other places. And your other theory could be correct as well.

 

But I'm afraid we're going to have to agree to disagree on what churches are, or what they are supposed to be. Fred Phelps' church out in Topeka preaches plenty of hate. But I'm not going to burn his church down, even though I think he's a raving lunatic who lashes out because he wants attention.

 

Actually, I was the one who said it could be a disgruntled parishoner. But I'll forgive you for that.

 

[buckeyemike]

 

:lol:

[blzrul]

When I first heard the news they didn't mention that there were people inside. Pretty bad stuff. I don't see that anyone's claimed responsibility yet. It's probably some lone nutjob...

 

What also strikes me is how a church in a town of 9,000 people could sustain DAMAGE work $1m????????????

[Wacka]

Yeah,

How could those eskimos build anything else other than igloos?

 

Speak about hate, you're the queen.

[Jim in Anchorage]

When I first heard the news they didn't mention that there were people inside. Pretty bad stuff. I don't see that anyone's claimed responsibility yet. It's probably some lone nutjob...

 

What also strikes me is how a church in a town of 9,000 people could sustain DAMAGE work $1m????????????

Remarkable ignorance about Alaska. That explains a LOT of the remarks I heard during the election.

[UConn James]

Let's not all get ahead of ourselves. The church I went to as a kid burned down and everyone said arson. Turned out to be something was sparked by the heating system. Shouldn't jump to conclusions when you have little to no evidence.

 

You hate her because she is a Republican, with points of view that are different from yours. I'm not saying you should open your mind. If you did, what's left of your brain would probably fall right out.

 

I say this as a registered Republican who watched and followed the campaign closely. I have no idea what her points of view are.

 

Unless "You betcha!", "shout-out" and "hockey mom" are code for something. Were we supposed to intuit her specific views based on the fact that she's Republican-branded? Since she had her Down's Syndrome baby, I guess she's pro-life <shrug>. Does she support stem cell research? I don't know. 'We're gonna get Americans better health care and feeling better!' and other such nebulous comments are not points of view... they're nebulous comments.

 

I didn't hear one damn thing of substance come out of her mouth. She didn't even clearly express what the top of the ticket's views were, nevermind her own.

[Cheeseburger_in_paradise]

Let's not all get ahead of ourselves. The church I went to as a kid burned down and everyone said arson. Turned out to be something was sparked by the heating system. Shouldn't jump to conclusions when you have little to no evidence.

 

 

 

I say this as a registered Republican who watched and followed the campaign closely. I have no idea what her points of view are.

 

Unless "You betcha!", "shout-out" and "hockey mom" are code for something. Were we supposed to intuit her specific views based on the fact that she's Republican-branded? Since she had her Down's Syndrome baby, I guess she's pro-life <shrug>. Does she support stem cell research? I don't know. 'We're gonna get Americans better health care and feeling better!' and other such nebulous comments are not points of view... they're nebulous comments.

 

I didn't hear one damn thing of substance come out of her mouth. She didn't even clearly express what the top of the ticket's views were, nevermind her own.

 

 

No one was injured in the fire, which was set Friday night while a handful of people, including two children, were inside, according to James Steele, the Central Mat-Su fire chief.

He said the blaze was being investigated as an arson.

 

As a republican who followed the campaign closely...please switch sides.

[elegantelliotoffen]

Webster's defines terrorism as the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

 

Thus, the arson of Sarah Palin's church is terrorism. Enough said.

 

And what political statement was made by this arson?

[Jim in Anchorage]

Let's not all get ahead of ourselves. The church I went to as a kid burned down and everyone said arson. Turned out to be something was sparked by the heating system. Shouldn't jump to conclusions when you have little to no evidence.

 

 

 

I say this as a registered Republican who watched and followed the campaign closely. I have no idea what her points of view are.

 

Unless "You betcha!", "shout-out" and "hockey mom" are code for something. Were we supposed to intuit her specific views based on the fact that she's Republican-branded? Since she had her Down's Syndrome baby, I guess she's pro-life <shrug>. Does she support stem cell research? I don't know. 'We're gonna get Americans better health care and feeling better!' and other such nebulous comments are not points of view... they're nebulous comments.

 

I didn't hear one damn thing of substance come out of her mouth. She didn't even clearly express what the top of the ticket's views were, nevermind her own.

"Vote for change" was all I needed-give me a break.

[UConn James]

I believe that 'being investigated as an arson' at this point doesn't necessarily mean arson, just as 'being investigated as a homicide' doesn't always mean it was foul play. Probably was arson, but until the final conclusions are made, you're jumping to them. E.g. Many buildings have electrical panels right inside the front door. Perhaps something short-circuited?

 

Also, why should Palin be apologizing for somebody trying to torch the church (if that is the case)?!?

 

"Vote for change" was all I needed-give me a break.

 

Hey, I didn't vote for either ticket. Was closest to M/P but they didn't earn my vote. Might have helped a smidgen if I knew what I would be voting for in a VP. All style, no substance.