Chef Jim Posted August 24, 2004 Posted August 24, 2004 Many of us here in CA can't quite figure why the current administration is doing so little..no check that, NOTHING, to stem the flow of illegal immigration to the US. Bush and Fox being all buddy-buddy really drives me nuts. Bush's amnesty progam disguised as a guest worker program took the cake. But then I find out that Jeb's wife was born in Mexico. Am I the only one who didn't know this. Could this be a reason why we have been turning a blind eye to this problem?
Alaska Darin Posted August 24, 2004 Posted August 24, 2004 Many of us here in CA can't quite figure why the current administration is doing so little..no check that, NOTHING, to stem the flow of illegal immigration to the US. Bush and Fox being all buddy-buddy really drives me nuts. Bush's amnesty progam disguised as a guest worker program took the cake. But then I find out that Jeb's wife was born in Mexico. Am I the only one who didn't know this. Could this be a reason why we have been turning a blind eye to this problem? 6468[/snapback] Well, that and the fact that Mexican-Americans tend to vote GOP...
IDBillzFan Posted August 24, 2004 Posted August 24, 2004 Well, that and the fact that Mexican-Americans tend to vote GOP... 6485[/snapback] Ummmm...the legal ones, anyway.
Chef Jim Posted August 24, 2004 Author Posted August 24, 2004 Ummmm...the legal ones, anyway. 6486[/snapback] Soooo, that's four votes for the GOP
Alaska Darin Posted August 24, 2004 Posted August 24, 2004 Soooo, that's four votes for the GOP 6490[/snapback] There's a true Californian for ya...
Chef Jim Posted August 24, 2004 Author Posted August 24, 2004 There's a true Californian for ya... 6497[/snapback] Yeah, us true Californian racist bastards! But seriously any poll you run is CA doing something about the illegal immigration wins by huge margins, but nothing is done about it. If either cadidate came out tough on illegal immigration they could take CA. It would be interesting to see how Bush's numbers would rise here if he took that tough stand that needs taking.
IDBillzFan Posted August 24, 2004 Posted August 24, 2004 Yeah, us true Californian racist bastards! But seriously any poll you run is CA doing something about the illegal immigration wins by huge margins, but nothing is done about it. If either cadidate came out tough on illegal immigration they could take CA. It would be interesting to see how Bush's numbers would rise here if he took that tough stand that needs taking. 6503[/snapback] It would be a slam dunk and I don't understand why we don't hear more about this. Fox must be hung like a horse.
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 25, 2004 Posted August 25, 2004 Yeah, us true Californian racist bastards! But seriously any poll you run is CA doing something about the illegal immigration wins by huge margins, but nothing is done about it. If either cadidate came out tough on illegal immigration they could take CA. It would be interesting to see how Bush's numbers would rise here if he took that tough stand that needs taking. 6503[/snapback] Illinois primary Senate candidate Jim Oberweis did. They attacked him from both angles. The GOP distanced him and the left accused him of demagoguery. Honestly, his numbers would plummet. People are more tolerant. CA suffers. What do you do? CA is caught between a rock and a hard place. Open the borders. Yes, I don't live in CA, AZ, NM, or TX. I do live in a community where demographics are 50-50 (whites-minorites). The Hispanic population is booming where I live (well over 25%), businesses are growing. Bring it on!
blzrul Posted August 25, 2004 Posted August 25, 2004 Illinois primary Senate candidate Jim Oberweis did. They attacked him from both angles. The GOP distanced him and the left accused him of demagoguery. Honestly, his numbers would plummet. People are more tolerant. CA suffers. What do you do? CA is caught between a rock and a hard place. Open the borders. Yes, I don't live in CA, AZ, NM, or TX. I do live in a community where demographics are 50-50 (whites-minorites). The Hispanic population is booming where I live (well over 25%), businesses are growing. Bring it on! 6649[/snapback] So what you're saying is bring on those tired, poor, huddled masses? What a commie pinko you must be.
Cheeseburger_in_paradise Posted August 25, 2004 Posted August 25, 2004 There's a true Californian for ya... 6497[/snapback] The Mexican vote will not change Texas or California. But it could change some of the swing States. This new un-impeded imigration is in every State. And they will not be pro Bush. It's because they will do what they are told to do by the people who they are indebted to.
Chef Jim Posted August 25, 2004 Author Posted August 25, 2004 The Mexican vote will not change Texas or California. But it could change some of the swing States. This new un-impeded imigration is in every State. And they will not be pro Bush. It's because they will do what they are told to do by the people who they are indebted to. 6703[/snapback] That is were many people are wrong. A good percentage of the Latino community that is here legally has had it as well with the illegal problem. Think about it, you busted your but, paid your dues and got your legal status and then there are the millions.....MILLIONS who are breaking the law.
Chef Jim Posted August 25, 2004 Author Posted August 25, 2004 Illinois primary Senate candidate Jim Oberweis did. They attacked him from both angles. The GOP distanced him and the left accused him of demagoguery. Honestly, his numbers would plummet. People are more tolerant. CA suffers. What do you do? CA is caught between a rock and a hard place. Open the borders. Yes, I don't live in CA, AZ, NM, or TX. I do live in a community where demographics are 50-50 (whites-minorites). The Hispanic population is booming where I live (well over 25%), businesses are growing. Bring it on! 6649[/snapback] Open the borders?? Get a grip. If you don't live in those states mentioned you have no clue as to what problems those millions of illegals here are causing. In CA the emergency rooms are closing because the illegals use them as free health care. They come in there to be treated for coughs, colds, aches and pains. Oh BTW........businesses are growing?? Wow, I thought the economy sucked. I guess it sucks when it fits one arguement and is booming when it fits another.
Chef Jim Posted August 25, 2004 Author Posted August 25, 2004 So what you're saying is bring on those tired, poor, huddled masses? What a commie pinko you must be. 6695[/snapback] I guess you've never heard of immigration quotas? I had a rep working for me from Bulgaria. Asked him how he got here. Said he got picked from the lottery. Imagine that, actually limiting the number of people allowed to come here from other countries. I'm all for immigration, hell my grandfather came here from Italy. But he did it the legal way. The way it USED to be.
IDBillzFan Posted August 25, 2004 Posted August 25, 2004 They come in there to be treated for coughs, colds, aches and pains. They come here pregnant so they can give birth in a good hospital without being accountable for the costs.
Chef Jim Posted August 25, 2004 Author Posted August 25, 2004 They come here pregnant so they can give birth in a good hospital without being accountable for the costs. 6843[/snapback] Not only that, the child born here becomes an automatic US citizen. I would venture a guess that a vast majority of the legal citizens where born here to illegal parents.
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 25, 2004 Posted August 25, 2004 Open the borders?? Get a grip. If you don't live in those states mentioned you have no clue as to what problems those millions of illegals here are causing. In CA the emergency rooms are closing because the illegals use them as free health care. They come in there to be treated for coughs, colds, aches and pains. Oh BTW........businesses are growing?? Wow, I thought the economy sucked. I guess it sucks when it fits one arguement and is booming when it fits another. 6789[/snapback] Micro-economy... The Hispanic community is filling the void that was left in some spots. I am not sure if this is indicative for the rest of the state or country. During all economic times, something will do successful. I take it there were a lot "start ups" during the '30's?
Guest RabidBillsFanVT Posted August 25, 2004 Posted August 25, 2004 The Mexican vote will not change Texas or California. But it could change some of the swing States. This new un-impeded imigration is in every State. And they will not be pro Bush. It's because they will do what they are told to do by the people who they are indebted to. 6703[/snapback] Not in MY state! We already had our immigration rush last century from Quebec! The only difference being that of course it was a MUCH smaller population movement. Thanks, both great gramps... je me souviens And they did it without recieving ANY FEDERAL AID! I often wonder how in the hell they ran the country without income taxes then? I think it's rather crazy to assume that someone will vote one way or another automatically because they are 'indebted to someone'. I have no take on the Latino community, so I don't know how they work, but in our FC-American families, we tend to have varying opinions, all of which are pretty centered and don't vary wildly to either direction. My uncle is a Republican representative, but he's a very good man. He usually runs against some wildly liberal Democrat and wins! I just wish he didn't have to be tied to those ultra-conservative whack-jobs and their crazy agendas, but at least he's in office helping people.
Cheeseburger_in_paradise Posted August 25, 2004 Posted August 25, 2004 I think it's rather crazy to assume that someone will vote one way or another automatically because they are 'indebted to someone'. I have no take on the Latino community, so I don't know how they work, but in our FC-American families, we tend to have varying opinions, all of which are pretty centered and don't vary wildly to either direction. My uncle is a Republican representative, but he's a very good man. He usually runs against some wildly liberal Democrat and wins! I just wish he didn't have to be tied to those ultra-conservative whack-jobs and their crazy agendas, but at least he's in office helping people. 6949[/snapback] The Republicans will be lucky to get 20 percent of the hispanic vote.
_BiB_ Posted August 25, 2004 Posted August 25, 2004 Not in MY state! We already had our immigration rush last century from Quebec! The only difference being that of course it was a MUCH smaller population movement. Thanks, both great gramps... je me souviens And they did it without recieving ANY FEDERAL AID! I often wonder how in the hell they ran the country without income taxes then? I think it's rather crazy to assume that someone will vote one way or another automatically because they are 'indebted to someone'. I have no take on the Latino community, so I don't know how they work, but in our FC-American families, we tend to have varying opinions, all of which are pretty centered and don't vary wildly to either direction. My uncle is a Republican representative, but he's a very good man. He usually runs against some wildly liberal Democrat and wins! I just wish he didn't have to be tied to those ultra-conservative whack-jobs and their crazy agendas, but at least he's in office helping people. 6949[/snapback] je me souviens? Well, things are becoming a little more clear here... Between the French Canadian influence and hanging out with the gang that you do day to day, no small wonder you have the ideas you do. Just try to remember what I said to you about going native.
BadDad Posted August 25, 2004 Posted August 25, 2004 Well, that and the fact that Mexican-Americans tend to vote GOP... 6485[/snapback] I always heard that the Dems had the Latino vote still wrapped up, although the GOP has been making inroads in the last few years. The largest Latin population is Mexican American so I would think that most Mexican Americans tend to vote Democrat. Now if you are talking about South Florida, then you have a point. The largest Latin group in S. FL is Cuban Americans and they have voted overwelmingly GOP for the last couple of election cycles, because of the anti-Cuban (Island) statements made by Repubs and the whole Elian Gonzalez thing a few years back. The recent change in visitation and money transfers policies that the Bush Admin. has instituted, may change that somewhat.
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