ExiledInIllinois Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 Look at their history from the late 1880's to the early 1900's and you'll see why labor unions were formed and what they accomplished. If the fat cat business owners gave a about their employees then unions never would have been necessary but the fat cats were big time A-holes and it's only legislation that keeps them from being A-holes now. And a more stablized world geo-politically with modern transportation systems have doomed labor union... Bascially, one can just go to some far away place to take advantage of labor... Out of sight, out of mind.
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 They were necessary because people were working 16 hour days 364 days a year. They still are... If not more... In other countries... And yes, I agree labor unions may not be needed here anymore... But, they are needed in developing countries.
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 What about the Hispanics? They make below min wage and have horrible working conditions. If anybody needs a union it is them. Why? You sad that JP may have to be picking fruit in Los Gatos canyon someday?
Boomer860 Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 Why? You sad that JP may have to be picking fruit in Los Gatos canyon someday? JP would have a problem tossing the fruit in a basket.
manateefan Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 Why? You sad that JP may have to be picking fruit in Los Gatos canyon someday? This is a polical board not football. If you want to bash JP go to the Stadium Wall.
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 This is a polical board not football. If you want to bash JP go to the Stadium Wall. Sorry... This was a first offense.
pBills Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 They still are... If not more... In other countries... And yes, I agree labor unions may not be needed here anymore... But, they are needed in developing countries. Those working conditions still happen here in the U.S. Not just a developing country issue.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 My point, as it relates to your response is, if you maintain that unions are necessary in the absence of basic working rights, then those basic rights need to be defined specifically. Thus, my question to you: what ARE basic working rights? There are no "rights" when it comes to work. Last I checked, the constitution doesn't contain provisions for "30 dollars an hour and 3 weeks paid vacation."
pBills Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 There are no "rights" when it comes to work. Last I checked, the constitution doesn't contain provisions for "30 dollars an hour and 3 weeks paid vacation." Not every union worker receives $30 per hour and three weeks vacation. Most don't.
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