erynthered Posted December 12, 2008 Author Posted December 12, 2008 No one has copped a tude yet, then again, I'm not sure who is going to with me. Thanks for the nostril shot. EEEWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!
Fezmid Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 In all my time behind the bar, or in the kitchen, I never defiled anyone's food or drink That's good to hear. And to those who actually do partake of those activities, be aware that tampering with food is actually a felony if you get caught. Is it really worth it because someone doesn't give you $5?
The Dean Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 No one has copped a tude yet, then again, I'm not sure who is going to with me. What's odd is, I know big scary looking guys that always seem to be in fights and skirmishes. They claim that people are always screwing with them. I have seen some guys (usually drunk) target a big dude, for abuse. I never could figure that out.
inkman Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 But, at my most recent brief stint behind the bar (at the Seneca Niagara Casino, when it first opened), I couldn't believe how some of the younger bartenders acted. They would give crappy service to someone who they thought would be a bad tipper, or hadn't tipped them the last time. That offended me, too. I'm quite certain my semi-homeless appearance has led to poor service at bars, but as a whole I think the bartending trade has slipped dramitically. It never ceases to amaze me how many times I won't even get noticed in a half empty joint without going out of my way to get their attention. BTW, aside from a couple local establishments that I have a relationship with, if my glass is near empty, it's time to ask me for another. The drunker I get, the bigger I tip, it's been scientifically proven.
KD in CA Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Food delivery is the best. I always tip those guys well.
The Dean Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 I'm quite certain my semi-homeless appearance has led to poor service at bars, but as a whole I think the bartending trade has slipped dramitically. It never ceases to amaze me how many times I won't even get noticed in a half empty joint without going out of my way to get their attention. Don't you know it. I can't believe the people who have, and keep, their jobs behind the bar. When I moved to Florida, and couldn't really work in my field, given my family situation, I tried to find a decent bartending job. I am a VERY good bartender, and can work (and have worked) in almost any situation, from local dive, to the fanciest of restaurants. It was a nightmare finding something, here. If I had breasts, or if I were younger and looked like a surfer, it would have been much easier. Experience, personality and knowledge of the business counts for nothing, it seems. In the end, I am almost glad I didn't find bartending work, as I started my own business, and while I'm not making great money, yet, it's interesting work and am my own boss. Also, most of the bars seem like they are crappy places to work: no buy-backs (it seems), poor selection of high-end booze, idiot clientele (for the most part), lousy bar food, etc.
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Or to get yelled at. Sometimes when the weather was bad everyone would order delivery. I was walking up to this house once and the husband saw me and was leaving. He just nodded and kept going. I found out why. His wife was on the war path over the pizza being late. I had like five orders in the car and she was going nuts, calling the shop and arguing with them. They got her settled down and I was about to leave and she opened the box and found out it wasn't cut in squares. She blew up again. We had to call again and she got her discount and I ran out of there. Ah, the good old days One of my theories on life is that every single person should have to work minimum two years in the service industry. I can guarantee you that lady never had to be on the butt end of this scenario. If everybody worked two years in the service industry, you wouldn't see anybody yelling at a hardworking delivery boy.
Endzone Animal Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Wow, I guess I haven't been such a great tipper afterall. I always do 20% and round to the nearest dollar, so on a $14-16 order I would tip $3.00, and on a $17-$21 order I would do $4.00, etc., with a max at $5.00.
Steely Dan Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Even with my 4 x 4, I ended up in a ditch on the side of a dudes driveway last night. Good thing he had a Hummer to pull me out, and he gave a $7 dollar tip, so I was jacked. You gave him a hummer for a $7 tip and pulling your 4x4 out. Ya do what ya gotta do I guess. I said that because I'm anonymous here. To your face? Not so much. What's odd is, I know big scary looking guys that always seem to be in fights and skirmishes. They claim that people are always screwing with them. I have seen some guys (usually drunk) target a big dude, for abuse. I never could figure that out. Kids In The Hall had a great skit about that. Dave Foley picking on a huge guy in a bar. One of my theories on life is that every single person should have to work minimum two years in the service industry. I can guarantee you that lady never had to be on the butt end of this scenario. If everybody worked two years in the service industry, you wouldn't see anybody yelling at a hardworking delivery boy. :wallbash: Seriously, I never effed with anyone's food I'd only grumble and get pissed off. However, when the other guys did I understood. I'm saying they should have done it but I understood.
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 When I was delivering Pizzas the non-tipping houses were well known and drivers would jockey to avoid them. If you knew a house was a poor tipper a lot guys, not me of course , would shake the sodas really hard and then tell the people in the house to "Be careful I ran with it." There's a lot of things drivers will do if you're a poor tipper. Some nasty some demeaning. Some drivers I worked with hand back a 13 cent tip and say "Keep it. You need it more than I do." If you're a bad tipper then your name is well known at the pizza makers. The minimum tip now should be $3. T I P = To Insure Promptness I can see the slippery slope. And why should there be a minimum tip? Isn't that the DELIVERY CHARGE? Again... To Insure Promptness... If there is a minimum, will the delivery be prompt? What defines prompt?
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Now, I tend to overtip everyone, and that includes pizza delivery guys. But, what do you do when there is an $8 delivery charge? Do you assume SOME of that is for the driver? I just tip about 20% for everything... I amazed how some of the old fellas don't tip at the barbers... If it costs my son and I 25 bucks at the barbers... I just give him 30 bucks (nice and easy) and tell him to split it with the other barber (the one that cut my son's hair)...
Chef Jim Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 No one has copped a tude yet, then again, I'm not sure who is going to with me. Why, you packing heat?
Steely Dan Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 T I P = To Insure Promptness I can see the slippery slope. And why should there be a minimum tip? Isn't that the DELIVERY CHARGE? Again... To Insure Promptness... If there is a minimum, will the delivery be prompt? What defines prompt? I worked for Domino's Pizza and there was no delivery charge.
inkman Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Wow, I guess I haven't been such a great tipper afterall. I always do 20% and round to the nearest dollar, so on a $14-16 order I would tip $3.00, and on a $17-$21 order I would do $4.00, etc., with a max at $5.00. Those numbers are respectable. Any tip I get over $5, I am very pleasantly surprised. Here's my scale: Under a dollar: $1 - $2 : $2 - $3 : $3 - $4 : $5+
Chef Jim Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 I love hearing all you tipped people bitching. I want to see you work 14 hours non-stop in 120 degree heat with sharp knive, open flames, ice cold walk-in freezers and 100# stock pots for zero tips. In the hospitality industry the tipped employee had no reason to complain about small tips. There was a reason for it if you got them.
Pete Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 T I P = To Insure Promptness I can see the slippery slope. And why should there be a minimum tip? Isn't that the DELIVERY CHARGE? Again... To Insure Promptness... If there is a minimum, will the delivery be prompt? What defines prompt?
inkman Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Again... To Insure Promptness... If there is a minimum, will the delivery be prompt? What defines prompt? 99.9% of the time it takes for me to get the food to the customer is in the kitchen. I can get anywhere in our delivery zone within 10 minutes. The longest an order has taken to get to the customer under my watch has been one hour, of course I didn't start the delivery until 40 minutes had already passed and it was the fourth order I had on that delivery. Taking it out on the delivery guy is moronic. A classic example of shooting the messenger. It sucks that my pay depends on the kids working the kitchen who care more about texting than expediting food at a reasonable rate. I've wanted to strangle our fryer kid on dozens of occasions.
erynthered Posted December 12, 2008 Author Posted December 12, 2008 99.9% of the time it takes for me to get the food to the customer is in the kitchen. I can get anywhere in our delivery zone within 10 minutes. The longest an order has taken to get to the customer under my watch has been one hour, of course I didn't start the delivery until 40 minutes had already passed and it was the fourth order I had on that delivery. Taking it out on the delivery guy is moronic. A classic example of shooting the messenger. It sucks that my pay depends on the kids working the kitchen who care more about texting than expediting food at a reasonable rate. I've wanted to strangle our fryer kid on dozens of occasions. Just show him your picture. Scared me!
Ramius Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 I love hearing all you tipped people bitching. I want to see you work 14 hours non-stop in 120 degree heat with sharp knive, open flames, ice cold walk-in freezers and 100# stock pots for zero tips. In the hospitality industry the tipped employee had no reason to complain about small tips. There was a reason for it if you got them. I never understood that either. The most important people in the food industry are the ones who prepare your food, and to a certain extent, the ones who clean the plates and glasses you are going to be eating with. Yet the lackey who brings you a plate 20 feet from the cook to your table gets the tips?
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 <a href="http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/tip.asp" target="_blank">http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/tip.asp </a> I don't care what Snopes says... It fits, I use it! But, most of the time I am going 15-20% anyway...
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