Joe Miner Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Here Then, don't buy crap on Craigs list anymore. Precisely
Fezmid Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Sounds great, but how much more is he going to end up paying to recoup his $150? Nothing -- if he wins in small claims court. And it only costs about $20 to file. Yes, you'll need his address, but that's it. Filing in small claims court is really easy too. Just go down, fill out a sheet of paper, and get a court date. If he doesn't show, you win. If he does, the judge hears the case (think "People's Court" - very similar) and makes a decision (usually not that day - you hear the result in the mail). I'd send an email and see what happens. Getting a statement from the installer who said it was fried is a great idea too, in case it goes to court so you can give that to the judge. I've been to small claims court once (landlord didn't return a security deposit -- I've posted the story here before) -- it's actually kinda fun when you know that you're 100% right.
Gisele Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Nothing -- if he wins in small claims court. And it only costs about $20 to file. Yes, you'll need his address, but that's it. Filing in small claims court is really easy too. Just go down, fill out a sheet of paper, and get a court date. If he doesn't show, you win. If he does, the judge hears the case (think "People's Court" - very similar) and makes a decision (usually not that day - you hear the result in the mail). I'd send an email and see what happens. Getting a statement from the installer who said it was fried is a great idea too, in case it goes to court so you can give that to the judge. I've been to small claims court once (landlord didn't return a security deposit -- I've posted the story here before) -- it's actually kinda fun when you know that you're 100% right. I would send him a certified letter with your intentions. If you continue to call him he can take out charges against you for harrassment. Keep his information forever. Revenge is a dish best served cold.
Steely Dan Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Here Precisely Dude, don't add insult to injury. Nothing -- if he wins in small claims court. And it only costs about $20 to file. Yes, you'll need his address, but that's it. Filing in small claims court is really easy too. Just go down, fill out a sheet of paper, and get a court date. If he doesn't show, you win. If he does, the judge hears the case (think "People's Court" - very similar) and makes a decision (usually not that day - you hear the result in the mail). I'd send an email and see what happens. Getting a statement from the installer who said it was fried is a great idea too, in case it goes to court so you can give that to the judge. I've been to small claims court once (landlord didn't return a security deposit -- I've posted the story here before) -- it's actually kinda fun when you know that you're 100% right. Even better but probably impractical would be to get his statement notarized as well. Without the letter you're probably out of gas. Also, don't forget to bring the actual thingy. I would send him a certified letter with your intentions. If you continue to call him he can take out charges against you for harrassment. Keep his information forever. Revenge is a dish best served cold. The guy will probably bring up the lawyer again. That will make the win even more sweet.
Kevbeau Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Here you go...effective, but not as good as a Shiv. Solution
Fezmid Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 I would send him a certified letter with your intentions. If you continue to call him he can take out charges against you for harrassment. Keep his information forever. Revenge is a dish best served cold. It's not harassment to simply ask for your money back and state that you're going to bring it to small claims court. The guy will probably bring up the lawyer again. That will make the win even more sweet. Don't say anything to the guy ahead of time, but if you do take him to small claims court, lawyers are NOT allowed. When I took my landlord to court, he had his lawyer there and I informed the judge that he wasn't allowed the talk. The lawyer tried claiming that he owned the building, judge allowed that, until I interrupted again and said that I had never heard of this guy before and had always sent all rent checks to the actual landlord's address. At that point the judge got pissed at the lawyer and basically told him to shut up and sit down. It was glorious.
Steely Dan Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Here you go...effective, but not as good as a Shiv. Solution (In my best Paris Hilton) That's hot. It's not harassment to simply ask for your money back and state that you're going to bring it to small claims court. Don't say anything to the guy ahead of time, but if you do take him to small claims court, lawyers are NOT allowed. When I took my landlord to court, he had his lawyer there and I informed the judge that he wasn't allowed the talk. The lawyer tried claiming that he owned the building, judge allowed that, until I interrupted again and said that I had never heard of this guy before and had always sent all rent checks to the actual landlord's address. At that point the judge got pissed at the lawyer and basically told him to shut up and sit down. It was glorious.
KRC Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 I am not sure what the laws are like in your neck of the woods, but in my area, even if you win in small claims court, that still does not force the person to pay up. I won a case against a contractor in small claims court. He refused to pay. I had to pay another fee to file a levy against him. He then took me to county court to challenge the levy. I had to pay another fee to get a lien filed against him. I still have not seen my money. Of course, I was able to get revenge in other ways, but that is a different story.
Fezmid Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 I am not sure what the laws are like in your neck of the woods, but in my area, even if you win in small claims court, that still does not force the person to pay up. I won a case against a contractor in small claims court. He refused to pay. I had to pay another fee to file a levy against him. He then took me to county court to challenge the levy. I had to pay another fee to get a lien filed against him. I still have not seen my money. Of course, I was able to get revenge in other ways, but that is a different story. I still think it's worth it. If everyone just ignored the scammers, then they'll just take advantage of someone else. At least this might make some of 'em think twice.
KD in CA Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 I am not sure what the laws are like in your neck of the woods, but in my area, even if you win in small claims court, that still does not force the person to pay up. I won a case against a contractor in small claims court. He refused to pay. I had to pay another fee to file a levy against him. He then took me to county court to challenge the levy. I had to pay another fee to get a lien filed against him. I still have not seen my money. Of course, I was able to get revenge in other ways, but that is a different story. Shived the mofo, didncha?
KRC Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 I still think it's worth it. If everyone just ignored the scammers, then they'll just take advantage of someone else. At least this might make some of 'em think twice. I just wanted to make him aware of what is in store if he expects to collect from this guy. I went after this contractor for the exact same reason: to try to prevent him from doing this to others. It did not work.
VOR Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 I am not sure what the laws are like in your neck of the woods, but in my area, even if you win in small claims court, that still does not force the person to pay up. I won a case against a contractor in small claims court. He refused to pay. I had to pay another fee to file a levy against him. He then took me to county court to challenge the levy. I had to pay another fee to get a lien filed against him. I still have not seen my money. Of course, I was able to get revenge in other ways, but that is a different story. You banged his wife?
KRC Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 You banged his wife? Um...no. You obviously haven't seen his wife.
Dante Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Take em too The Peoples Court! Gotta be worth it just to see judge Marylin M She's kinda hot. Maybe you can get this kinda of ruling out her. I love her when she does this.
Bullpen Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Five words: Sand in the gas tank. (someone disputed the "sugar in the gas tank" myth a month or so ago).
KD in CA Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Um...no. You obviously haven't seen his wife. So you're saying that was plan D.
KRC Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 So you're saying that was plan D. Hell, after what happened to him, even he is not banging his wife.
Steely Dan Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Take em too The Peoples Court! Gotta be worth it just to see judge Marylin M She's kinda hot. Maybe you can get this kinda of ruling out her. I love her when she does this. That is awesome. I love it when she puts people in their place. Five words: Sand in the gas tank. (someone disputed the "sugar in the gas tank" myth a month or so ago). Mythbusters debunked sugar in the gas tank but if you fill the gas tank with sugar I'm sure it will have some affect.
Chump Change Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Five words: Sand in the gas tank. (someone disputed the "sugar in the gas tank" myth a month or so ago). That's along the lines of how =I'd handle it. But I think I'd rather slash all four of his tires. The payback is instant. He'll know not to screw with you or people like you again and it's a HUGE inconvenience. I did this a few years ago. I was dropping my family off at LAX and left them at the curb with their bags while I tried to find parking. It was Christmastime and parking was non existant in the garage. I literally drove around for 10-15 minutes until I spotted someone backing out who wasn't being followed or had someone waiting for their spot. They were on the end of the row and i patiently waited for the lady to load her luggage and back out. As soon as she pulled out this a**hole pulled in from the exit lane right into her spot before I could react. I was beyond mad and put my car in park, went up to the guys window and told him to get out of the spot. The punk wouldn't get out of the car, wouldn't look at me and just sat there. He knew that I was waiting and tried to be a weasel. I got madder and madder telling him to get out of the car and be a man. At about that time I see a security guard walking toward his car probably at the end of his shift, so smartly I left, got in my car and searched for another 10 minutes for a spot. On my way into the airport i made a visit to his car and pulled out my trusty pocket knife. I proceeded to slash all four of his tires (I lookied for cameras first). I bet that dude will think twice about stealing someones spot again. Now many people think this is wrong and I almost understand. But sometimes people need to know immediately that they shouldn't screw with other people. That's just my advice.
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