But Al Gore said it was settled science....

[erynthered]

.....guess not.

 

 

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?Fus...f0-274616db87e6

[DC Tom]

.....guess not.

 

 

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?Fus...f0-274616db87e6

 

 

Funny how many of them say what I've been saying: not that global warming is incorrect, but that it's become an unscientific ideology.

 

 

But Gore's a better scientist than I am. He's got the Oscar to prove it.

[Boomer860]

Funny how many of them say what I've been saying: not that global warming is incorrect, but that it's become an unscientific ideology.

 

 

But Gore's a better scientist than I am. He's got the Oscar to prove it.

He must be brilliant , he invented the internet . An overstuffed blowhard comes to mind when I see him.

[IDBillzFan]

Funny how many of them say what I've been saying: not that global warming is incorrect, but that it's become an unscientific ideology.

 

 

But Gore's a better scientist than I am. He's got the Oscar to prove it.

And the Oscar for Best Powerpoint Presentation By A Non-Technical Performer goes to....

[elegantelliotoffen]

Can you name one scientific body that denies global warming? (Besides The Union of Petroleum Scientists of course!)

 

 

American Association for the Advancement of Science

 

The American Physical Society

 

The Joint Science Academies at the 2008 G8 Summit

 

International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences

 

The National Research Council

 

Federation of American Scientists

 

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

 

World Meteorogical Organization

 

American Meteorogical Society

 

International Union of Geological Sciences

 

Geological Society of America

 

American Geophysical Union

 

American Astronomical Society

 

The EPA

 

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

 

The InterAcademy Council

 

Royal Meteorological Society

 

Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society

 

Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences

 

International Union for Quaternary Research

 

American Quaternary Association

 

International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics

 

Stratigraphy Commission of the Geological Society of London

 

International Union of Geological Sciences

 

European Geosciences Union

 

Canadian Federation of Earth Sciences

 

American Society for Microbiology

 

American Statistical Association

 

Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society

 

European Academies of Sciences and Arts

 

NASA

 

American Institute of Physics

 

Network of African Science Academies

 

The European Science Foundation

 

Stephen Hawking

 

The CIA and the Pentagon

 

American Chemical Society

 

The Union of Concerned Scientists

[elegantelliotoffen]

Funny how I'm parroting what many of them have been saying: not that global warming is incorrect, but that it's become an unscientific ideology.

 

Fixed!

[K-9]

He must be brilliant , he invented the internet . An overstuffed blowhard comes to mind when I see him.

 

Except he never said he invented the internet. He and everyone else with half a brain KNOWS it was initially developed by the military. Gore was an early advocate and pushed hard in the Congress for the military to get the backing it needed. Hell, even Newt Gingrich himself gave Gore credit for his role in pushing the Congress to back the project.

 

Got any more RushMyths that need debunking? Although I thought this particular one was debunked a while ago.

 

Edit: meant to say Congress, not Senate.

[DC Tom]

Fixed!

 

Parroting? Please. If I were mindlessly parroting other people's thoughts, I'd provide a long list of links or something...

[GG]

Can you name one scientific body that denies global warming? (Besides The Union of Petroleum Scientists of course!)

 

Quick, can you name anyone who's denied the evidence of a warming trend?

 

Maybe when you start reading and stop linking, you'll stop being abused.

[elegantelliotoffen]

Parroting? Please. If I were mindlessly parroting other people's thoughts, I'd provide a long list of links or something...

 

Actually that would defeat the purpose of misrepresenting other people's thoughts as your own wouldn't it? Talking Point Tom doth protest too much, methinks!

[Boomer860]

Except he never said he invented the internet. He and everyone else with half a brain KNOWS it was initially developed by the military. Gore was an early advocate and pushed hard in the Senate for the military to get the backing it needed. Hell, even Newt Gingrich himself gave Gore credit for his role in pushing the senate to back the project.

 

Got any more RushMyths that need debunking? Although I thought this particular one was debunked a while ago.

Glad to see you support Gore. Now go out and have a burger ,maybe you could go with Rush speaking of over stuffed blowhards.

[elegantelliotoffen]

Quick, can you name anyone who's denied the evidence of a warming trend?

 

Maybe when you start reading and stop linking, you'll stop being abused.

 

So are you going to make me type out "anthropogenic" every time we discuss global warming?

[Boomer860]

Except he never said he invented the internet. He and everyone else with half a brain KNOWS it was initially developed by the military. Gore was an early advocate and pushed hard in the Senate for the military to get the backing it needed. Hell, even Newt Gingrich himself gave Gore credit for his role in pushing the senate to back the project.

 

Got any more RushMyths that need debunking? Although I thought this particular one was debunked a while ago.

You are right he didnt invent it he was more god -like ,he created it.

Gore never claimed that he "invented" the Internet, which implies that he engineered the technology. The invention occurred in the seventies and allowed scientists in the Defense Department to communicate with each other. In a March 1999 interview with Wolf Blitzer, Gore said, "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

[molson_golden2002]

You are right he didnt invent it he was more god -like ,he created it.

Gore never claimed that he "invented" the Internet, which implies that he engineered the technology. The invention occurred in the seventies and allowed scientists in the Defense Department to communicate with each other. In a March 1999 interview with Wolf Blitzer, Gore said, "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

Yes, you knit wit, much like Milliard Fillore helped create the telegraph by getting funding to put the infrsastructure together. You are a tool

[Dante]

ManBearPig. Gore knows of this. Discovered this. Gore's a legend.

[Boomer860]

Yes, you knit wit, much like Milliard Fillore helped create the telegraph by getting funding to put the infrsastructure together. You are a tool

You libertards are very defensive when hit with facts. I mean Al Gore is a very sensible person , now go pay him your carbon offsets.

[Wacka]

...A long list of links...

 

Looks like you ban from Google has ended. Again, what is your line of work?

[K-9]

Glad to see you support Gore. Now go out and have a burger ,maybe you could go with Rush speaking of over stuffed blowhards.

 

Nope. Not a big Gore supporter. I just don't support ignorance and lies being propagated by blowhards who B word and moan and insult others without contributing a damn thing to the common good.

[K-9]

You are right he didnt invent it he was more god -like ,he created it.

Gore never claimed that he "invented" the Internet, which implies that he engineered the technology. The invention occurred in the seventies and allowed scientists in the Defense Department to communicate with each other. In a March 1999 interview with Wolf Blitzer, Gore said, "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

 

Here's a thing you're probably not familiar with, a little thing called context. And I thank Newt Gingrich, father of the GOP's Contract With America for providing the context. Living in a world of soundbites and myopic vision can stifle one's ability to grow. But go ahead and take a soundbite from a heated subject in the midst of a hotly contested presidential race and make it the truth for all time.

 

Covering the RNC Ad, Part 1: “In All Fairness”

Tuesday, September 5, 2000

Last Friday evening, former speaker Newt Gingrich took part in

a colloquium for the American Political Science Association.

The panel was broadcast live on C-SPAN. Speaking about the

1996 Telecommunications Bill, Gingrich at one point said this:

 

 

GINGRICH: In all fairness, it’s something Gore

had worked on a long time. Gore is not the Father

of the Internet, but in all fairness Gore is the

person who, in the Congress, most

systematically worked to make sure that we

got to an Internet, and the truth is—and I

worked with him starting in 1978 when I got

there, we were both part of a “futures

group”—the fact is, in the Clinton administration

the world we had talked about in the ’80s began

to actually happen. You can see it in your own

life, between the Internet, the computer, the cell

phone.

 

 

Again, this is Newt Gingrich, boys and girls, Father of the

Republican Revolution: “Gore is the person who, in the

Congress, most systematically worked to make sure that we

got to an Internet” (my emphasis). Gingrich said the

statement should be made “in all fairness,” but fairness has

had almost nothing to do with press coverage of Gore and the

Net. Neither has simple intelligence. For almost eighteen

months, the press corps has engaged in a long-running gong

show, painting Gore as a wierdo (and worse) for a single past

statement on this subject. The matter was brought into

question last week by the release of a new campaign ad.

 

 

The ad, by the Republican National Committee, deals with

Gore’s 1996 luncheon at the Hsi Lai Buddhist temple. It also

deals with a statement Gore made about the Internet in

March 1999. Near its end, the RNC ad accuses Gore of

“claiming credit for things he didn’t do.” It then shows tape of

Gore from the CNN program, Late Edition, saying “I took the

initiative in creating the Internet.”

 

 

The ad nimbly edits Gore’s statement. On Late Edition, Wolf

Blitzer asked Gore what set him apart from his Democratic

rival, Bill Bradley. In the course of listing his career

accomplishments, Gore said this (total length, sixteen words):

 

 

GORE: During my service in the United States

Congress, I took the initiative in creating the

Internet.

 

 

And, except for those who live to pick nits, Gore’s statement

is essentially accurate. As Gingrich noted, Gore is the person

who, in the Congress, did most to develop—yes,

“create”—the Internet. (Gingrich said that Gore did most “to

make sure that we got to an Internet.”) The RNC ad—like

most of the press corps’ treatment of this

statement—cleverly drops Gore’s opening clause, in which it

becomes clear that Gore is discussing his work in the

Congress. It is no accident that Gore’s original 16-word

statement has almost always been “edited” down to just

eight.

 

 

Gore didn’t say he “invented the Internet.” Gore didn’t say he

was “father of the Internet.” Those phrases—which you’ve

read again and again—are the creations of our hapless press

corps, which has spun and distorted this inane topic ever

since March ’99. But now, with the release of this

much-discussed RNC ad, serious charges are made about

Gore’s character. The ad ends with this statement: “Gore will

say anything.” It is the press corps’ duty to critique this ad,

to see if its charges are accurate.

 

 

Based on what we’ve seen so far, the press is not up to the

challenge. Incredibly, in the press corps’ numerous critiques of

this ad, we have seen only one reporter—Glen Johnson of the

Boston Globe—reproduce the full text of Gore’s actual

statement. Thousands of words have been written on this ad,

and no one seems to have enough space to restore the eight

missing words. Meanwhile, Katharine Seelye examined the ad

for The New York Times last Friday. We threw up our hands

when Seelye wrote this:

 

 

SEELYE (9/1): ON THE SCREEN …[The ad]

shows him in a “Larry King Live” interview saying:

“I took the initiative in creating the Internet.” The

camera returns to the kitchen. Flashed on the

screen is a web site, gorewillsayanything.com.

 

 

On “Larry King Live!” Amazing! Seelye, the Times’ Gore

reporter since early 1999, doesn’t even know what program

this statement derives from! One might well wonder how hard

she has worked to get at the truth of this long-running tale.

 

 

The RNC ad makes two specific claims. First, it says Gore

“raised campaign money at a Buddhist temple.” Second, it

says Gore “claim[ed] credit for things he didn’t even do” in his

remark about the Internet. Throughout this week, we’ll be

looking at the press corps’ analysis of these two claims. But

we’ll also be reviewing the press corps’ conduct over the past

eighteen months—the remarkable work the corps has done in

spinning Gore character themes. In our view, the press corps’

conduct in this area has been the press story of this

campaign. It’s time to explain why we think that.

 

 

But for today, let’s compare statements—one from Gore, and

one from Gingrich. See how closely the two statements

coincide. And then ask yourself how this silly story could

possibly have gone on so long—how it can be that we’ve

spent eighteen months reading burlesques of Gore’s

statement:

 

 

Al Gore, March 1999: During my service in the

United States Congress, I took the initiative in

creating the Internet.

 

 

Newt Gingrich, September 2000: Gore is the

person who, in the Congress, most systematically

worked to make sure that we got to an Internet.

 

 

For eighteen months, we’ve read burlesques of Gore’s

statement. In all fairness, we must finally ask: Why?

[DC Tom]

Here's a thing you're probably not familiar with, a little thing called context. And I thank Newt Gingrich, father of the GOP's Contract With America for providing the context. Living in a world of soundbites and myopic vision can stifle one's ability to grow. But go ahead and take a soundbite from a heated subject in the midst of a hotly contested presidential race and make it the truth for all time.

 

Actually, Gore DID say the quote Boomer quoted.

 

And it was taken out of context and twisted to he "invented" the internet.

 

And it was stupid of him to say in the first place, since he didn't take any initiative in creating the internet, he took initiative in creating legislation.

 

The bottom line is that even though Gore didn't say what's usually attributed to him, he's still a moron for saying what he did.