Hardy Pyle Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Nice to see our scrubs making great plays for a top notch defense last night. doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murra Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Nice to see our scrubs making great plays for a top notch defense last night. doh! Last night someone alluded to the fact that any of us would look spectacular next to Ed Reed. I think that argument goes along way...I mean honestly Leonhard was horrible, and I'd much rather have Whitner playing FS like he did this week than having Leonhard anywhere near our team. He clearly wasn't the answer. I didn't catch Bannan make any plays, but I wasn't watching closely. Again, it's Bannan. Come on, are you saying that we should have kept these guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I have fond memories of watching the 05 All High Motor dline of Aaron Schobel/Justin Bannan/Tiny tim anderson/Chris Kelsay. We should've never let him walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Last night someone alluded to the fact that any of us would look spectacular next to Ed Reed. No, just me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardy Pyle Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 I just found it curious that they were not good enough for the Bills but good enough for a stellar Raven's defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I just found it curious that they were not good enough for the Bills but good enough for a stellar Raven's defense. Ed Reed is a far better safety than Donte Whitner can ever dream of being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Last night someone alluded to the fact that any of us would look spectacular next to Ed Reed. I think that argument goes along way...I mean honestly Leonhard was horrible, and I'd much rather have Whitner playing FS like he did this week than having Leonhard anywhere near our team. He clearly wasn't the answer. I didn't catch Bannan make any plays, but I wasn't watching closely. Again, it's Bannan. Come on, are you saying that we should have kept these guys? Leonhard was nowhere near horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Bannan was extremely underrated and over criticized here in Buffalo. I'd take him in our DL rotation over McCargo and Bryan anyday. Leonhard was a hard worker, made some good plays and plenty of bad plays. But still it goes to show what a solid supporting cast can do for a roleplayer type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I have seen a half dozen Ravens game (hard not to in No. VA) and Bannan has been a very solid defensive lineman for Ravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonramz Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Bannan plays a 3-4 end which is a totally different position than the 4-3 tackle we wanted him to play.... Leonhard is an average player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Bannan was extremely underrated and over criticized here in Buffalo. I'd take him in our DL rotation over McCargo and Bryan anyday Not only that; Bannan was key in our kick return wedge. When he left, the returns suffered for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Not only that; Bannan was key in our kick return wedge. When he left, the returns suffered for a while. Good, I'm not the only one who noticed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 No, just me... just because you can rig a football pool don't mean you'll look good in tight pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Leonhard was nowhere near horrible. Uh, yeah he was. He couldn't make a tackle to save his life, and the opposing offense gained an average of 15 yards when a pass was thrown to the receiver he was covering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 just because you can rig a football pool don't mean you'll look good in tight pants. I shall refrain from comment while the contests are currently active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 When Ralph Wilson mentions talent being the main issue why we aren't winning. I don't know if that is the case anymore. We see former players who no one believes is starting material yet they are making significant contributions on other teams. However, when they played here in Buffalo they were nothing special just another guy. I don't think we are going to see a winning franchise until major changes are made both in the Front Office and Coaching Staff. This team looks totally unprepared to play Sundays and are at a competitive disadvantage each and everytime they step on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Uh, yeah he was. He couldn't make a tackle to save his life, and the opposing offense gained an average of 15 yards when a pass was thrown to the receiver he was covering. That's funny, because he and Whitner have started the same number of games this year, yet Leonhard has more tackles. He also has more tackles than Bryan Scott and Ko Simpson. Leonhard has more tackles than any safety on our roster. I saw Leonhard take down Brandon Jacobs head on, one on one, at the goal line to prevent a touchdown. Anyone who can do that to Jacobs can tackle, and tackle well. I'm not even going to answer your other comment about yardage, because it has no factual content, which has no validity. Leonard was not on the field to play in the box and make tackles. He was on the field because he was smart in coverage, and knew where everyone was supposed to line up. He had 2 interceptions in the first two games he started last year for us, I believe. Not to mention that he is beyond valuable on special teams. He can run down the field on coverage and he can also return the ball. So, I repeat, Leonhard is no where near horrible. You can try arguing that he's not top echelon, not an all-star, or even that he's not a play maker, but he is certainly far from horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I just found it curious that they were not good enough for the Bills but good enough for a stellar Raven's defense. Bannan looks good because he plays next to Ngata. Even Mccargo would look good next to Ngata. It just shows you what a terrible mistake the bills made on passing on Ngata. This mistake rivals Donahoes boner of letting Pat Williams go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 i liked leonhard. just a good football player. not a superstar, but definitely a guy that helps your team by being on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 i liked leonhard. just a good football player. not a superstar, but definitely a guy that helps your team by being on it. The problem is we already have those type of players in Greer, Kyle Williams....If you put Bannan next to WIlliams and Leonard next to Wilson, this defense will be even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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