eliteqb Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 I know it won't happen, but wouldn't it be great if we could go back to the days when you drafted a player he was yours until he quit, got cut or traded to another team. No free agency at all.
silvermike Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 Um, no. I like free agency as long as the salary cap is there to protect the balance in the league.
bowery4 Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 Did you watch the Bills in the late 60s? Early 70s the sense of doom was worse then (until OJ and the O line developed) under a COACH who knew what to do with his personnel.
Jim in Anchorage Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 I know it won't happen, but wouldn't it be great if we could go back to the days when you drafted a player he was yours until he quit, got cut or traded to another team. No free agency at all.
KD in CA Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 Um, no. I like free agency as long as the salary cap is there to protect the balance in the league. You wouldn't need a cap if there was no free agency. But you would need an owner to invest in front office people who can evaluate talent.
TheChimp Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 I know it won't happen, but wouldn't it be great if we could go back to the days when you drafted a player he was yours until he quit, got cut or traded to another team. No free agency at all. YUP
Steely Dan Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 You wouldn't need a cap if there was no free agency. But you would need an owner to invest in front office people who can evaluate talent. The Bills of the early 90's used that system to make great teams and it's awesome when it works but horrendous when it doesn't. It would be cool to keep guys forever though and keep team continuity.
silvermike Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 Free agency makes bad teams better and good teams worse - I think a more competitive league makes for a more interesting league. And I should note here: If you don't like the holdouts under the franchise tag, get used to ten or fifteen holdouts per team if there's no unrestricted free agency and it's the only option to negotiate.
Jim in Anchorage Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 Free agency makes bad teams better and good teams worse - I think a more competitive league makes for a more interesting league. And I should note here: If you don't like the holdouts under the franchise tag, get used to ten or fifteen holdouts per team if there's no unrestricted free agency and it's the only option to negotiate. When do the Bills do that "better" thing?
DIE HARD 1967 Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 Free Agency may be the #1 reason why we eventually lose the Bills Free agency led to higher salaries, higher salaries led to higher ticket prices and private corporate boxes,and without corporate boxes you lose your team. Selling out the stadium is not good enough anymore. Should GM and Ford go under in Buffalo....well, you do the math.
silvermike Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 Just out of curiousity, he're the all-active, all-Bills-drafted team. Let me know if you have any thoughts: QB: Trent Edwards, JP Losman, Todd Collins RB: Marshawn Lynch, Willis McGahee, Shawn Bryson (I'm assuming Travis still gets suspended) FB: Sammy Morris WR: Lee Evans, Roscoe Parrish, Josh Reed, James Hardy, Stevie Johnson (look familiar?) OT: Jason Peters, Jonas Jennings, Demetrius Bell OG: Brad Butler, Mike Pucillo, Aaron Merz C: Duke Preston (only center drafted since 1995. This may be why we suck at this position) DE: Aaron Schobel, Ryan Denney, Chris Ellis, Chris Kelsay DT: Kyle Williams, John McCargo, Marcus Stroud (trades are fine), Tim Anderson LB: Keith Ellison, Paul Posluszny, John DiGiorgio, Mario Haggan CB: Nate Clements, Antoine Winfield, Terrence McGee, Jabari Greer, Leodis McKelvin (our clear strength) SS: Donte Whitner, George Wilson FS: Ko Simpson, John Wendling
silvermike Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 Free agency led to higher salaries, higher salaries led to higher ticket prices and private corporate boxes,and without corporate boxes you lose your team. I'm really not convinced that the owners would have decided to make less money just because they were paying less in salary. Jerry Jones would just be richer, and he'd be buying players from the Bills instead of signing our UFAs. If anything, with lower salaries, football teams would be a safer investment, meaning more people would want to buy them, they'd be more valuable, and therefore more difficult to purchase for a local group.
DIE HARD 1967 Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 I'm really not convinced that the owners would have decided to make less money just because they were paying less in salary. Jerry Jones would just be richer, and he'd be buying players from the Bills instead of signing our UFAs. If anything, with lower salaries, football teams would be a safer investment, meaning more people would want to buy them, they'd be more valuable, and therefore more difficult to purchase for a local group. Great point.
8-8 Forever? Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 whoever made the original post is a moron.. pls stop posting here.. I won't even comment on such a stupid post...
DIE HARD 1967 Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 whoever made the original post is a moron.. pls stop posting here.. I won't even comment on such a stupid post... I don't think it is stupid at all
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