thewildrabbit Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Not gonna talk personality here because Marv has one,Jauron doesn't. Not gonna mention emotion because Marv would blow up at officials and Jauron at times looks like a deer in headlights on the sidelines.Not gonna talk quips and quotes because Marv had his marvisms and Jauron....well he is stoic to a fault. The biggest difference I see in coaching is... Marv Levy hired an experienced savvy ex-NFL head coach to run his offense. A man with some really good credentials on running an offense. Someone who knew how to set up a running game and passing game and knew how to develop a young QB.This offensive coordinator who noticed that Jim Kelly was at his best in the 2 minute drill so he said lets run the 2 min drill for 60 min and installed a no huddle offense. Marv Levy was smart enough to hire an offensive coach who built one of the most explosive offenses in NFL history.Who tutored his QB "old School" to call his own plays on the field.The result was this well oiled offensive machine even kept working after he left.This man is probably a big reason as to why Mr Levy in in the HoF IMO. --------vs Dick Jauron hired Steve Fairchild who had been the bills RB coach and moved to the rams to be the offensive coordinator for 3 years,he studied under head coach Mike Martz. Martz being known for his explosive passing offenses. So it stands to reason Jauron wanted an explosive passing offense in Buffalo.I'm not really certain if Marv Levy had an influence on this hiring but he was the GM at the time. After Fairchild left Jauron promoted from within the org and hired the QB coach,Turk Schonert.Dunno what is involved in the Bills front office,were there money constraints regarding this hiring ? Anyway this is the Buffalo Bills current problem. The Bills are trying to build an explosive offense and they simply don't have the proper components, OC and QB. Losing one of the best O line coaches in Jim McNally didn't help either,they replaced him with an assistant O line coach who is a rookie this year. I think ole Turk has forgotten what helped the Bengals reach their only super bowl in 1988. It wasn't just Boomer and the no huddle.It was Icky Woods gaining 1066 yds and James Brooks gaining 931 on the ground and that play action pass that they threw to Eddie Brown, it was called "sell out play action",thing of beauty. Boomer was the best at play action pass,he would fake the hand off to Icky and hold it until Eddie Brown was by the CB and Boomer would let fly,usually for a huge gain or TD.They ran this only once or twice a game but it was enough keep the D honest, which kept them from cheating up to close. This current Bills team is simply trying to hard to make the passing game work and over looking the running game This team rarely used play action up until the Cleveland game. Those constant shotgun formations need to stop. Right now the Bills need to stop trying open up the passing game and focus on the running game, Marshawn Lynch is the key play maker on this team and the Bills need to utilize him more often,irregardless who the QB is. They should start the game against the Dolphins with Marshawn in the 'Wildcat and go from there. Give Marshawn 25+ carries, Jackson 15+ touches.The Bills should run the ball all game long, 35 rushes 15 passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Not gonna talk personality here because Marv has one,Jauron doesn't. Not gonna mention emotion because Marv would blow up at officials and Jauron at times looks like a deer in headlights on the sidelines.Not gonna talk quips and quotes because Marv had his marvisms and Jauron....well he is stoic to a fault. The biggest difference I see in coaching is... Marv Levy hired an experienced savvy ex-NFL head coach to run his offense. A man with some really good credentials on running an offense. Someone who knew how to set up a running game and passing game and knew how to develop a young QB.This offensive coordinator who noticed that Jim Kelly was at his best in the 2 minute drill so he said lets run the 2 min drill for 60 min and installed a no huddle offense. Marv Levy was smart enough to hire an offensive coach who built one of the most explosive offenses in NFL history.Who tutored his QB "old School" to call his own plays on the field.The result was this well oiled offensive machine even kept working after he left.This man is probably a big reason as to why Mr Levy in in the HoF IMO. --------vs Dick Jauron hired Steve Fairchild who had been the bills RB coach and moved to the rams to be the offensive coordinator for 3 years,he studied under head coach Mike Martz. Martz being known for his explosive passing offenses. So it stands to reason Jauron wanted an explosive passing offense in Buffalo.I'm not really certain if Marv Levy had an influence on this hiring but he was the GM at the time. After Fairchild left Jauron promoted from within the org and hired the QB coach,Turk Schonert.Dunno what is involved in the Bills front office,were there money constraints regarding this hiring ? Anyway this is the Buffalo Bills current problem. The Bills are trying to build an explosive offense and they simply don't have the proper components, OC and QB. Losing one of the best O line coaches in Jim McNally didn't help either,they replaced him with an assistant O line coach who is a rookie this year. I think ole Turk has forgotten what helped the Bengals reach their only super bowl in 1988. It wasn't just Boomer and the no huddle.It was Icky Woods gaining 1066 yds and James Brooks gaining 931 on the ground and that play action pass that they threw to Eddie Brown, it was called "sell out play action",thing of beauty. Boomer was the best at play action pass,he would fake the hand off to Icky and hold it until Eddie Brown was by the CB and Boomer would let fly,usually for a huge gain or TD.They ran this only once or twice a game but it was enough keep the D honest, which kept them from cheating up to close. This current Bills team is simply trying to hard to make the passing game work and over looking the running game This team rarely used play action up until the Cleveland game. Those constant shotgun formations need to stop. Right now the Bills need to stop trying open up the passing game and focus on the running game, Marshawn Lynch is the key play maker on this team and the Bills need to utilize him more often,irregardless who the QB is. They should start the game against the Dolphins with Marshawn in the 'Wildcat and go from there. Give Marshawn 25+ carries, Jackson 15+ touches.The Bills should run the ball all game long, 35 rushes 15 passes. The only thing they have in common is they are both intelligent men off the field. Nothing is in common between the white lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOG 666 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 NOOOOOO Please don't do that!!! Marv is a legend, he's simply the best HC in Buffalo Bills history, he can't be compared with no one else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Not gonna talk personality here because Marv has one,Jauron doesn't. Not gonna mention emotion because Marv would blow up at officials and Jauron at times looks like a deer in headlights on the sidelines.Not gonna talk quips and quotes because Marv had his marvisms and Jauron....well he is stoic to a fault. The biggest difference I see in coaching is... Marv Levy hired an experienced savvy ex-NFL head coach to run his offense. A man with some really good credentials on running an offense. Someone who knew how to set up a running game and passing game and knew how to develop a young QB.This offensive coordinator who noticed that Jim Kelly was at his best in the 2 minute drill so he said lets run the 2 min drill for 60 min and installed a no huddle offense. Marv Levy was smart enough to hire an offensive coach who built one of the most explosive offenses in NFL history.Who tutored his QB "old School" to call his own plays on the field.The result was this well oiled offensive machine even kept working after he left.This man is probably a big reason as to why Mr Levy in in the HoF IMO. --------vs Dick Jauron hired Steve Fairchild who had been the bills RB coach and moved to the rams to be the offensive coordinator for 3 years,he studied under head coach Mike Martz. Martz being known for his explosive passing offenses. So it stands to reason Jauron wanted an explosive passing offense in Buffalo.I'm not really certain if Marv Levy had an influence on this hiring but he was the GM at the time. After Fairchild left Jauron promoted from within the org and hired the QB coach,Turk Schonert.Dunno what is involved in the Bills front office,were there money constraints regarding this hiring ? Anyway this is the Buffalo Bills current problem. The Bills are trying to build an explosive offense and they simply don't have the proper components, OC and QB. Losing one of the best O line coaches in Jim McNally didn't help either,they replaced him with an assistant O line coach who is a rookie this year. I think ole Turk has forgotten what helped the Bengals reach their only super bowl in 1988. It wasn't just Boomer and the no huddle.It was Icky Woods gaining 1066 yds and James Brooks gaining 931 on the ground and that play action pass that they threw to Eddie Brown, it was called "sell out play action",thing of beauty. Boomer was the best at play action pass,he would fake the hand off to Icky and hold it until Eddie Brown was by the CB and Boomer would let fly,usually for a huge gain or TD.They ran this only once or twice a game but it was enough keep the D honest, which kept them from cheating up to close. This current Bills team is simply trying to hard to make the passing game work and over looking the running game This team rarely used play action up until the Cleveland game. Those constant shotgun formations need to stop. Right now the Bills need to stop trying open up the passing game and focus on the running game, Marshawn Lynch is the key play maker on this team and the Bills need to utilize him more often,irregardless who the QB is. They should start the game against the Dolphins with Marshawn in the 'Wildcat and go from there. Give Marshawn 25+ carries, Jackson 15+ touches.The Bills should run the ball all game long, 35 rushes 15 passes. I don't think Jauron has any interest at all in building an "explosive" offense. He likes to play with extreme caution and hope to be close in the 4th Q, win it with a field goal. He has no interest in track meets. Take his comments about limiting Lynch to save on wear and tear. Absolutely ridiculous. Our goal is to win freaking games, not to make sure Lynch is fresh 4 games from now when the season is all but over. There is no reason for Lynch to ever be out of a game other than to catch a breath after a big play. It takes the best you have to win a game in this league. Sure, I love Jackson but if I need 2 yards for a critical first down, the best man on the roster to get those yards is Marshawn Lynch. Teams that are 11-1 can rest their starters with a game on the line, not teams that are 6-6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 The approaches to team building have been quite different. Marv actually brought in and kept veteran players when he first came to Buffalo and filled in the gaps with younger players. Levy had a very experienced staff of assistant coaches, one of the most experienced staffs in the league -- guys that could generally be trusted to know how to do their jobs. They didn't ramrod pet systems on the players, they developed systems to accentuate the strengths of the players, stuck with it, and honed it. Players that didn't do their jobs were sent packing. Anybody remember Chris Burkett, Ronnie Harmon, or later on Billy Joe Hobert? Those guys had talent, but they crossed Levy and squandered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Levy also had Will Wolford, Jim Ritcher, Kent Hull John Davis and Howard Ballard on offense; Bruce Smith, Jeff Wright/Ted Washington and Phil Hansen on defense. Jauron, Williams and Mularkey have had a bunch of scrubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 The Bills also had Bill Polian who hired Marv Levy and brought in all that talent over the years Marchibroda was by far his best assistant coach and hire I can remember Jim kellys first year with the Bills in 1986, Hank Bullough was the head coach before Levy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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