John from Riverside Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Real, You and my wife have the same type of job (my wife is a table games dealer at Soboba Indian Casino close to our house here in Hemet) I feel for you and a lot of the dealers in the surrounding casinos's are getting laid off as well....I think my wife is safe but she went from making really good money at that job to the point where isn't making jack @hit. Good thing I still have my job....but we are on the verge of BK over here. Things are going go downhill fast for us after Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellDressed Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Very sorry to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I just checked the jobs at Turning Stone Casino west of Syracuse, and they don't have any gaming jobs listed, just kitchen and golf course maintenance. They let a bunch of people go a few weeks ago. Here you go, found an article.... In a Thursday afternoon conference call the Oneida Indian Nation announced it's laying off up to 100 employees of its Turning Stone Resort and Casino. In what it calls an "reorganization of back room administrators" the Nation said that the 100 layoffs represents only 2% of the 5,000 employees at the Resort. Most are salary administrative and management positions. Those laid off will get a severance package and outplacement help. Officials admit the gambling industry is being hit by these tough economic times as consumers spend their money more sensitively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD Jarhead Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I'm very sorry to hear the news especially during this time of year...As many have opined, it looks like the gaming industry will be down for quite awhile since so few have the disposable income they once had. I do wish you and your family the best. Bad things sometimes happen to good people. The true measure of our character is how we respond to adversity. I'm a firm believer that everything happens for a reason even though those reasons aren't always evident to us. Sometimes it takes the removal of material things to see the true blessings in our life. Having said that, I hope that you find rewarding employment very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 T-Real, sorry to hear about the layoffs. Had I known you were dealing at the Seneca Niagara, I would have had you give a message to this really nice, hot, redheaded roulette dealer I know...if she still works there. Her name was Paula. Anyway, good luck with the job hunt. What a crappy time to get laid off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 What a crappy time to get laid off. Not that there's ever a non-crappy time.... I just heard that a company I used to work for has said that, in order to avoid more layoffs, they're cutting everyone's salary by 10%, eliminating the 4% 401(k) match and also the 3% yearly 401(k) bonus. Sounds like they're banking on the fact that there are no other companies hiring (which doesn't appear true in this area, from my research) or that people will think "Glad to at least have a job." Not sure if that's really the right thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Not that there's ever a non-crappy time.... I just heard that a company I used to work for has said that, in order to avoid more layoffs, they're cutting everyone's salary by 10%, eliminating the 4% 401(k) match and also the 3% yearly 401(k) bonus. Sounds like they're banking on the fact that there are no other companies hiring (which doesn't appear true in this area, from my research) or that people will think "Glad to at least have a job." Not sure if that's really the right thing to do. Actually, if the do it across the board (I actually support the highest paying management positions take a higher % to set an example), and position it as an attempt to avoid layoffs and make an honest attempt to make it temporary (if the business improves), then I'm all for it. I tried to get one company I worked for to follow a plan like that and volunteered to take a bigger paycut to help spare my staff. The other dept heads laughed at the idea...then we went to a very expensive retreat, drank two hundred dollar bottles of wine, and discussed the upcoming layoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 No warning. On my day off they call me to say, turn in your stuff. Not based on any type of personal matter, just economics. I've looked for another job that could make me any type of similar earning potential and there is none. I'm one of those guys who really takes pride in his work. I love my job. Dealing Craps isn't only fun, it's challenging. Not any dope can do it. It's apparent that I won't be able to do that here anymore and I guess what is... is. Really bad day yesterday. To do that to me 3 weeks before Christmas really really hurts. No Christmas bonus? No, no job. If it were me and me alone, I'd be okay. How do you tell a 2 year old not to expect as much for Christmas. Really really tough day. there is never a good time to lose your job and your 2 year old has little concept of the materialism of Christmas or what anything costs. Heck, I could give my 7 year old son a refrigerator box and he would have as much fun with that as a Nintendo DS. You'll be fine as long as you are realistic about your situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Actually, if the do it across the board (I actually support the highest paying management positions take a higher % to set an example), and position it as an attempt to avoid layoffs and make an honest attempt to make it temporary (if the business improves), then I'm all for it. I tried to get one company I worked for to follow a plan like that and volunteered to take a bigger paycut to help spare my staff. The other dept heads laughed at the idea...then we went to a very expensive retreat, drank two hundred dollar bottles of wine, and discussed the upcoming layoffs. Sounds like the company named in my new avatar. Close to 2,000 layoffs in the last week alone, including some of their best and brightest, but word is Gannett CEO Craig Dubow will still be going on his Caribbean cruise over the holidays. Would it be in bad taste to hope he gets washed overboard and -- professional courtesy aside -- eaten by sharks? Threadjack over, sorry to hear about your plight, T_R. Wish I could help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Sounds like the company named in my new avatar. Close to 2,000 layoffs in the last week alone, including some of their best and brightest, but word is Gannett CEO Craig Dubow will still be going on his Caribbean cruise over the holidays. Would it be in bad taste to hope he gets washed overboard and -- professional courtesy aside -- eaten by sharks? Threadjack over, sorry to hear about your plight, T_R. Wish I could help. Gannett use to be a client of mine. I never thought much of them, I have to say. CEOs and top management often fail to consider the rhetorical impact of their actions on the workforce. In my experience, leaders who set an example for their employees (even if it is merely symbolic) get SO much more of an effort and loyalty, from the rank and file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I just heard that a company I used to work for has said that, in order to avoid more layoffs, they're cutting everyone's salary by 10%, eliminating the 4% 401(k) match and also the 3% yearly 401(k) bonus. The company I worked for after 9/11 did that when the economy took a downturn, with the promise they'd restore the pay/benefits when the situation improved. They never did, and now they're a former shell of themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I'm very sorry to hear this. I hope you find something even better, and that you and your family thrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I just heard that a company I used to work for has said that, in order to avoid more layoffs, they're cutting everyone's salary by 10%, eliminating the 4% 401(k) match and also the 3% yearly 401(k) bonus. That's exactly what we just did to help deal with our 2009 cash flow issues. We decided it was a better option than gutting operations by dropping another 5 people. It's a scary time, and until the credit markets improve, preserving cash is an absolute requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbeau Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 The company I worked for after 9/11 did that when the economy took a downturn, with the promise they'd restore the pay/benefits when the situation improved. They never did, and now they're a former shell of themselves. What poor companies fail to realize is that there is always a market for talented people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real Posted December 5, 2008 Author Share Posted December 5, 2008 What poor companies fail to realize is that there is always a market for talented people. That's the sad part of the hole debacle. My reviews as a dealer put me in the top 2% of dealers. I have the reviews here at my house. Out of a possible 50 on my evaluation I got a 47 and a 45 the past two years. The average review score is 37 as the instructors are told not to give out any perfect scores unless the quality is extroadinary. A number of the supervisors have already told me they would write me a letter of recommendation. The only real problem with that is I have to leave my home to continue my craft. Bash WNY until you're blue in the face but no where else on earth is home to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Sorry about your job loss . You are 1 in 533,000 . In the last month . http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Employers-cu...f-13758005.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 T-Real, sorry to hear about the layoffs. Had I known you were dealing at the Seneca Niagara, I would have had you give a message to this really nice, hot, redheaded roulette dealer I know...if she still works there. Her name was Paula. Anyway, good luck with the job hunt. What a crappy time to get laid off. That's the sad part of the hole debacle. My reviews as a dealer put me in the top 2% of dealers. I have the reviews here at my house. Out of a possible 50 on my evaluation I got a 47 and a 45 the past two years. The average review score is 37 as the instructors are told not to give out any perfect scores unless the quality is extroadinary. A number of the supervisors have already told me they would write me a letter of recommendation. The only real problem with that is I have to leave my home to continue my craft. Bash WNY until you're blue in the face but no where else on earth is home to me. What about working in Canada? Not sure what needs to be done, but just throwing it out there. I was there this past weekend and the place was mobbed. Just a thought.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockpile Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Good luck and keep your spirits up. I truly know how you feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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